SVT 40 Practical Accuracy

Torandir

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Hi All,
I recently acquired a very nice condition refurbed SVT 40. Bore is vey nice, with no pitting and shiny lands and grooves. Gas system is nearly perfect with minimal wear marks, and no rust (thankfully). I have had it out a couple of time to the range so far and have had no luck with accuracy using surplus 54R. My finn captured mosin seems to do fine with the same ammo despite a worse bore. I'm at a bit of a loss as i've had numerous milsurps with worse bores shoot better overall than this SVT. I will admit they are awesome guns to shoot, but 10" at 50 yds is a bit to be desired.
 
Torandir: I used to own a few of the SVT refurbs and shot them quite a bit. Accuracy was truly all over the page with no definite correlation to bore condition. My best one was a '41 Tula with only fair bore and not particularly good stock fit (and an early skinny stock, as well). With Chinese surplus it would shoot 1.5" 5 shot groups all day at 100m(in fact, from the very first zeroing groups to the last, before I sold it, every group was the same). My second best was a '43 Bulgarian "light refurb" which was almost as good, as you would hope given it was virtually a brand-new, factory matching rifle. Third best was a '41 Sniper that I worked with shimming to secure the receiver in the wood more firmly. It gave best results with PRVI FMJ- 1.5" 5 shot groups were possible though not common. Fourth best was my Lever Arms $200 Christmas Special! I tried a lot of bedding experiments with it. 7 or 8 inch groups as purchased. It improved a bit by increasing the forend tip up-pressure but really improved when I did a bit of inletting on the rear deck of the stock which rotates the barreled action around the front pin and turns it into a "floater". It would then routinely put 5 into 2" at 100m. All three '43 light refurbs I've owned in the past appear to have come from the factory floating at the forend tip and have fairly deep inletting for the action at the rear.

Those were the good ones. Others showed no real tendency to want to "group", yielding long strings or missing standard targets all together with some shots. Things to consider are: Are the metal upper guards firmly in place or do they shift between shots, changing the geometry shot by shot? Is the clamping of the stock at the rear by the trigger group adequate? It's easy to make it tighter with beer can or brass shims. Is the barreled action really loose, front to rear or side to side, before installing the trigger group? You can use gasket paper in different positions to snug it up. I suspect the poor fitting of the actions to the wood at the refurb facility is the main culprit. I checked carefully all the ones I owned and it was split between some forend tip pressure, very light forend pressure, and fully floating. Totally hit and miss as to whether the lower metal guard fit tightly onto the wood. Also, there are different versions of the lower metal guard- some have a ring the barrel sits on, some don't.

Have fun trying to make it shoot and let us know if you find something that works. I would stick to one type of surplus and leave that as a constant. Overall I definitely found mine worked best with light ball surplus.

milsurpo
 
They made it too light for the round trying to reduce the carry weight for infantrymen (it was lighter than M91/30, approximately same weight as M44 carbine). And they basically carried everything on themselves. Horse drawn wagons were for regimental artillery, HMGs, supply train etc.

Here is an old slo-mo video of SVT firing. It flexes alot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBQ5WK9sop8&t=17s
 
SVT 40 sights are zeroed on fig 3 on rear tangent at distance of 100 meters. rifle's accuracy judged acceptable if all 4 shots land in the group within 15 cm diameter circle. All this should be done in best conditions possible and with no wind with ammo that's loaded with 1908 type of projectile which is LPS. This is straight from SVT manual.
If its previously owned gun and someone messed with sights then you need to adjust them.

Choose the most available ammo that the rifle will be used with. Rifle stock has to be set on support. create a target with white background and black 15 cm diameter circle. set it at 100 meters or similar distance in yards. fire 4 shots with 300 setting, see where they land. Once area of impact is known adjust front sight accordingly. repeat untill rifle hits in the circle.

If ammo is different brands, get same brand of ammo. if rifle is not cycling reliably adjust gas setting 1.3-1.5 and repeat the test.

If it shoots groups outside of 15cm circle or only 3 land in the circle and one outside this is also acceptable as either shooter error or cartridge fault.

when you know how it shoots at 100y/m with 300 setting you can compensate at lower distances or further out to longer ranges.

SVT suppose to be re zeroed with every new batch of ammo. As there are many factors at play. bullet weight, gas port setting and weather condition play big role in its accuracy and operation.

That's why this rifle was a specialist's weapon. Not a cup of tea for everyone.
 
Thanks for all the input guys, much appreciated. with regards to ammo, I have tried to group it at 50, from sandbags. Best group achieved with Chinese light ball was well over 8". everything stock wise appears nice and tight, front metal is very tight, and the underside one actually can't come off unless I remove the entire action from the stock. I may try the rear shims as the trigger pack came out quite easily. My Finnish mosin is set up that way as well, it shoots quite well so i have no desire to change the original stocking up.
 
Mine shot around 4 inches at 70 yards. I was quite impressed. Mine looks like a classic refurb with the thicker-wristed post war stock. I was fun to shoot, reminding me of the FNC1 I trained with. Though the FN's peep sight was a force multiplier in terms of accuracy and aquisition. But I digress..
 
One thing i remembered reading back in the day to take the cleaning rod out before you shoot and it was supposed to help with accuracy.

I never really sat down with sandbags and measured a group, but i had good success with LVE ammo i got back in the day from westrifle. I was able to hit the 5" gong consistently with a 1-4x scope in one of the aftermarket scope mounts that fit on existing receiver rails. I was happy with that.
 
... with the thicker-wristed post war stock...

That's AVT stock (known in the West as naval stock for some reason), as in 1943 SVT was used as an automatic rifle (like BAR). Then they switched them back to semi use, but kept the stock and select fire group.

BTW many SVTs of 1944 and 1945 production were not issued and now are being resold in Russia as hunter rifles KO-40 for about $600 CAD.

Funny thing, they didn't even bother to remove the select fire group, just installed a little metal bar on the safety, so it hits the trigger and can't go into full auto position to the right.
 
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