Swamp is dried up took a walk

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Found a few of these in the middle on the swamp on some driftwood. Since its been dried up I took a walk across the entire thing.

Any idea If this is an older style Win SuperMag Shell? or a newer.. No one has EVER hunted this bush with permission other then me The father inlaw has lived on the farm his entire life.. So someone has took some shots back there. lol

I assume its atleast a couple years old as the brass is gone on all the shells i found.
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Figured I would ask the gun nutz :D

This is all thats left of the swamp. This part was atleast 6 feet deep.. Normally the entire water bed has about 3 feet.
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Those shells have built there for a very long time. A decade at least, probably longer. We find old shells in a well hunted are we use, and all of them still have some metal on the base.
 
It is possible that those shells never did have brass

If they were base free hulls I would think they would be Activ's, not Winchesters. I may be wrong but they are the only brand of all plastic base hulls I have ever seen. They were popular for a time with reloaders back in the 80's who wanted to shoot heavy loadings though they were originally intended for the target shooters market but just never gained a lot of popularity for some reason. They sure could be reused over and over compared with many brands of hulls they sure packed some heavy loadings. A friend I shot with back in the day still has some, and back when lead was allowed he sure had some potent loads.
Here is a pic of some...check out the factory loading of lead in a 3" hull....thats as much as a 10 Gauge 3 1/2" loading of lead!! 2 1/4 oz in a 12 Gauge!!

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The other pic is from another forum of 1000 3" hulls for sale. They used to have loadings listed for steel as well.
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those shells were everywhere in the 80's and before.......it takes years for the brass to come off............I would guess that shell is probably 30 yrs. old.
 
I little off topic, but since the water is way down, would this be an opportunity for you to plant a food plot? Perhaps some wild rice or millet or duckweed or ? So that when the water comes back it will be even better.
 
I little off topic, but since the water is way down, would this be an opportunity for you to plant a food plot? Perhaps some wild rice or millet or duckweed or ? So that when the water comes back it will be even better.



Really? Maybe ill see if the local coop has some
 
Winchester stopped using brass bases way back in the mid to late 1980's on all their shotshells except for the compression formed AA Trap loads. Further, in most freshwater situations it would take the better part of a century for brass to oxidize into oblivion like that. On the duck marsh I hunt I have found in the mud brass shotshell heads from shells that in some cases have not be produced since the 1920's and 30's. Some of the shotshell head stamps I have found include Dominion and or CIL Canuck, Maxum, Imperials, UMC Nitro Club, Dominion Sovereign, Dominion Meteor, Eatonia Shell, Winchester Repeater, Gevelot Canada, to name some...and in 12, 16 and 20 gauges.
 
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Really? Maybe ill see if the local coop has some

This was more of a question than a suggestion. You could send the photos off to Ducks Unlimited Canada and/or Delta Waterfowl and ask for suggestions on how you could improve the habitat of your small wetland. They say that 10 one acre wetlands are better than 1 ten acre wetland.

If you decide to make some improvement, take some photos and keep us informed. I would be interested.
Again, sorry if this is a thread hijack.
 
Winchester stopped using brass bases way back in the mid to late 1980's on all their shotshells except for the compression formed AA Trap loads. Further, in most freshwater situations it would take the better part of a century for brass to oxidize into oblivion like that. On the duck marsh I hunt I have found in the mud brass shotshell heads from shells that in some cases have not be produced since the 1920's and 30's. Some of the shotshell head stamps I have found include Dominion and or CIL Canuck, Maxum, Imperials, UMC Nitro Club, Dominion Sovereign, Dominion Meteor, Eatonia Shell, Winchester Repeater, Gevelot Canada, to name some...and in 12, 16 and 20 gauges.

This man is right, none of the crappy waterfowl shells we get today are brass, thats why they rust so bad. I reload my duck loads with premium target hulls as they are the only ones I know of that have brass any more.
 
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