Swapping Optics for SR During match?
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ORA SR,
In my situation I have the ELCAN SpecterDR 1x4 so I'm good to go but I was just asking about what others do with fixed 3.4x and 4x Optics. I thought maybe If they had a quick mount setup they could easily swap out for 1x setup if they zeroed everything and know the same rail location to mount it back...Just thinking of other options
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I normally use a fixed 3.5 Acog and have no issue really, but I am used to the C79 and 3-4x optics thanks to the Army. Below 50m, your simply get a nice clear view of the wris####ch 
That being said, I'm actually trying out a Vortex Sparc for the next match for fun.
SR is shot at much longer ranges than SR/CQB and held on different days, so no problem swapping optics between those matches.
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Maybe someone else will chime in but I've never seen anyone swap optics in the full SR matches, it's simply too hectic and no one wants to risk loosing zero.
Nice job on the DR by the way, been hearing good things about it!
That being said, I'm actually trying out a Vortex Sparc for the next match for fun.
SR is shot at much longer ranges than SR/CQB and held on different days, so no problem swapping optics between those matches.
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Maybe someone else will chime in but I've never seen anyone swap optics in the full SR matches, it's simply too hectic and no one wants to risk loosing zero.
Nice job on the DR by the way, been hearing good things about it!
I would. Not a fan of the golf bag approach.
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If you're looking for another option, all I can think of is a clamp on offset rail with a red dot sight - in effect an offset sight. Zero it for 15 m to really game it. Cant the rifle to use the offset sight.
I'm just imagining this. I've never actually seen it done.
P.S. It may eat dirt in modified prone.
I'm just imagining this. I've never actually seen it done.
P.S. It may eat dirt in modified prone.
I've was swapping between an Aimpoint and a Falcon 4-14 on an AR recently. The Aimpoint is in an ARMS mount, and I've had the Falcon in both separate ARMS rings and a Vortex cantilever mount. They return to zero pretty well... well enough for your sighters to be on the board (worst case), but usually within a couple clicks. It would not be an issue if the scope had matched turrets and reticle, and you did it before a stage that allows sighers.
That being said, I would not run that combo in a match since the Falcon needs to re-focus at different distances. I replaced both with the 1.5-5x Falcon that works across the course.
You can do it for NSCC. I asked Keith about it...
That being said, I would not run that combo in a match since the Falcon needs to re-focus at different distances. I replaced both with the 1.5-5x Falcon that works across the course.
You can do it for NSCC. I asked Keith about it...
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The Danish rifle team did it at AFSAM in 2010 (CompM4 and C79Elcan).
They had no intention of doing it ever again after I showed them how to run an Elcan inside 100m while keeping POA and POI the same even when using the BDC.
They had no intention of doing it ever again after I showed them how to run an Elcan inside 100m while keeping POA and POI the same even when using the BDC.
If you have a good reticle (read "ranging" reticle), its a trivial matter. Measuring a miss with it, then correcting on the turrets is SOP when you're running an FFP scope, but it can be done with an SFP scope if its on the right magnification setting. Whether you're correcting for a bad wind call, a bad distance call, an unknown distance shot, a change in environmental conditions or a zero offset from removing and re-installing the scope makes no difference. The procedure is the same: measure with the reticle and correct directly on the turrets. It's something you're already doing.
This is one of the reasons why "ranging" reticles and exposed (prefereably locking) turrets are of value even in low power SR optics (new Leupold, Premier and S&B 1-8x scopes have these features). If you lose your zero for whatever reason, you can perform a field expedient sighter (like in the 500m PR match) and get a decent zero. You can do this in a match, you can do it in combat. It only takes a shot or two and you just need to know the approximate distance, have something to aim at and be able to see the hit. A sandy hill, concrete or brick walls work for this at distance... at close range you can see bullet holes in things through the scope. Fire a shot, then use that splash/pot mark/hole as your aiming point and fire a second shot. Then adjust and reset the turret to what is should be for that distance (those scopes allow you to do this in seconds without any tools).
This is one of the reasons why "ranging" reticles and exposed (prefereably locking) turrets are of value even in low power SR optics (new Leupold, Premier and S&B 1-8x scopes have these features). If you lose your zero for whatever reason, you can perform a field expedient sighter (like in the 500m PR match) and get a decent zero. You can do this in a match, you can do it in combat. It only takes a shot or two and you just need to know the approximate distance, have something to aim at and be able to see the hit. A sandy hill, concrete or brick walls work for this at distance... at close range you can see bullet holes in things through the scope. Fire a shot, then use that splash/pot mark/hole as your aiming point and fire a second shot. Then adjust and reset the turret to what is should be for that distance (those scopes allow you to do this in seconds without any tools).
