Swedish AG-42 Dangers?

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Hi All,
Has anyone heard of the Swedish AG-42 Lungmann having issues with the round detonating from an open bolt? I was thinking of buying one but, I was advised against it by a gunsmith because he's heard of 3 to 4 fatalies from unexplained explosion of the round before the action closes.
 
A friend of mine had a bad experience with the 160 grain Imperial factory ammo, not an open bolt situation, but frisky ejection and took a chunk out of the rim of the brass on the ejector. Startling but not dangerous. Military surplus 140 grain FMJ's functioned flawless. Powder burn rate is the real concern if you are reloading for the Lungmann.
 
I regret selling mine....as mentioned above avoid using bullet weights above what they were designed for.

With my recollection of the design I would imagine that it would be nearly impossiple for a round to go off with an open bolt. Assuming the bolt is clean and the firing pin is not jammed.

I have heard several instances where the bolt stop/safety selector has been sheered of from using the wrong ammo.

If you buy it I still have a set of spare parts minus an extractor.
 
I have one and know it well, pretty much the most accurate semi auto i have shot , if it had sights like a garand it would be the best . I dont think its any more dangerous than a Garand or M14 with proper ammo AND WATCH YOUR FINGERS the action can crush one .. Heres some tips , most all new factory ammo will be too hot and have the wrong powder and can cause early ejection and tearing off of the case rim , broken extractors ect. , so reloads are best . Use a powder like IMR 4895 i use 33gr behind a 140gr bullet AND ALWAYS use a hard primer like Winchester or cci milspec primer and always CRIMP your bullet . Put a light film of oil on your ammo before shooting to help extraction , the Swedish military AG42 specific ammo was lubed also ..
 
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AG42Bs can be quirky with respect to ammunition. If the breech tries to open when residual pressure is too high, the extractor will rip through the rim. Lock the bolt open and bump the butt on the ground and the casing will fall out. It is not over-expanded, there was just too much residual pressure when the breech opened.
The rifles will only function with some ammunition if it is lubricated. The brown box issue practice ammunition was prone to torn rims if dry.
The rifles were designed for use with both heavy round nosed ball, and the lighter spitzer ammunition. That is why the rear sight can be configured two different ways.
Like other military rifles, there is the possibility of slam firing, hence the primer warning above.
The Swedes disposed of these rifles as surplus before the M96 and M38 rifles were sold off.
 
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Time to find a new gunsmith.
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X2....I think that gunsmith may be the same guy that told me twenty some odd years ago that I should stay away from LE 303 and Garands and 1903 Springfields because they will blow up in your face....needless to say I didn't listen to him and to this day I have not had one Lee Enfield or Garand or 1903 Springfield blow up
 
Any self loader can become dangerous if not maintained properly or if it is fed poorly reloaded ammunition. If everything is running well the only danger I've heard about is that you can kill a man with the ejected brass.
 
Only issue I have had with my Ljungman is that it is picky on ammo.

Bell 6.5x55 worked well in it but since I can't get that anymore, Hornady is what I feed her now and have no issues. Stay away from Winchester or Federal stuff, AG42's don't like it.

Also, FYI the rear sight has two settings, one for Round nose ammo (100~600 meters) and one for Pointed (100~700 meters). The RN setting will allow for the rear sight to be at the lowest possible setting, a good thing to know if it shoots a few inches high a 100yds like mine does with the Hornady ammo.
 
M 42 b ammo

I shot thousands of reloads, surplus, and commercial ammo in mine and never had a misfeed, tore a rim or anything. Used weights of 87 gr to 160 gr and different powders. Hot summers and -40 winters.

You need a new gunny.
 
"...by a gunsmith because he's heard..." "I heard". Famous words you see on the Internet. That smithy is full of excrement.
"...gun was also meant to..." No it wasn't. Lubed ammo had long since been proven unneccesary and inherently unsafe by the time the AG came along. Oiling ammo causes excess pressure.
"...the possibility of slam firing..." Those are caused by improperly loaded ammo, not the rifle.
"...cci milspec primer..." Those are just a marketing gimmick for magnum primers. You don't need 'em. Nor are their cups any different from any other primer.
 
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I find it unbelievable how soft the recoil is and how good the trigger is!
 
To me the only draw back of the ag42 and the reason it very often stay in the safe is the lack of surpluss ammo.
 
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