Swedish M38 Question? ALSO LEE ENFIELD MARKINGS SOMEONE?

Garry Styles said:
I have the identical rifle I believe. Started out it's life as a No.4 Mk1* made in Chickopee Falls NewYork by Savage Arms or Maltby. The FTR stands for Factory Thorough repair. Basically went from the Mk 1 to the number Mk 2, or in this case as it had the * it became the No.4 Mk 1/3 in 1953. The trigger was now hung from the action. (F) stands for Fazackerly where the repairs were done. Yours will say Property of the United States on the receiver if made at Savage Arms. By the way I love mine and all parts match.
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Actually, it would say US PROPERTY. And sometimes these markings were removed during hte conversion to No.4Mk1/3.
 
It does still say US Property, on the left side, and England on the right. Interesting. I like the fact that it was orignally made in 44.

Also Do the mags have to be pinned from 10 rounds to 5????????? Or were LE exempted like M1's were.
 
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The "England" mark relates to the rifle's export from the UK after it was sold as surplus.
Savage serials started at 0C1, and proceded through 99C9999. When they hit a million, they went to 0C plus five instead of four digits. Your rifle is the 1 003 083rd rifle made by Savage. Savage finished their contract in the summer of '44. Incidentally, I am currently restoring Savage 0C469.
 
Swede Threaded Ends

I have the BFA for the Swede 38's & 96's, and the 42B semi.
Interesting things, they look like small rifle grenades. I picked them up a few years ago on eBay, along with sight protectors, muzzle guard for cleaning, cleaning rod extension, night sights for the 42B, and flash eliminator. I think I have 300 or 400 blanks around here somewhere. There is a good book on the Swedes from North Cape Publishing. If you like Swede firearms you will find quite a bit of information on the guns and accessories. It’s easy reading and gives some information on the guns and their use against the Russians in their war with the Finns.
 
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albayo said:
...There is a good book on the Swedes from North Cape Publishing. If you like Swede firearms you will find quite a bit of information on the guns and accessories. It’s easy reading and gives some information on the guns and their use against the Russians in their war with the Finns.
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If you're really into Swedish firearms, there's a dedicated forum here: http://p102.ezboard.com/fparallaxscurioandrelicfirearmsforumsfrm33 :dancingbanana:
 
K98ACTION said:
Hello All

I just bought a nice 42 Swed M38 in 6.5x55 from a fellow CGN. Anyhow what goes on the end of the muzzle? It's threaded, is that for a stock, issued muzzle flash of some sort?
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Swedish BFA (Blank Firing Attachment) designed to be used with WOODEN bullets

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The following pics show ..........

M96 or M38 threaded barrel rifle ............... plastic or metal thread protector ..................... BFA mounted for use

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Swedish 6.5 x 55mm m/14 wooden-bullet blanks for use with threaded muzzle BFA (blank firing attachment) and Swedish 6.5 x 55mm m/12 Kammarpatron (gallery cartridges) for indoor training use at 15 meters. Harmless beyond 200 meters.

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Swedish Service Ammunition (lots more detailed pics ... click here)http://imageevent.com/badgerdog/swedishservicerifles/swedishserviceammunition


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As mentioned, for the Swede...
The threaded end was for:
Blank firing device
Flash hider
And yes also a little thread protecting cap that snugs the bayonet nice.

And for those that think the flash hider is ###, might want to consider that this was a military rifle, and in combat muzzle flash is a very easy dead give away to your location.
 
The threads were only intended for a BFA - the Swedes never added a Flash Hider.

The Flash Hiders that are available are an aftermarket thing that "Flamboyant" types (but not necessarily ###) feel the need to add to make it look ###.

The general concensus is that the best book on Swedes is "Crown Jewels" by Dana Jones. The book by Poyer is useful but contains some inaccuracies.
 
Still not enough info available to base a solid conclusion on this subject.
Methinks we need to get in touch with some old swedes that handled these rifles back in the day. :)
 
Nonsense.

Read Dana Jones' book and you will see that the nature of his research was very thorough.

If however you find some original Swede issued Flash Hiders, some literature that indicates their use, even some pictures, then that would be a real contribution.
 
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