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Just been going over my first range outing wth a new to me Swiss1889. Loaded and shot better than I expected. Although an interesting thing became apparent which I found you could discharge the firearm be either pulling the trigger or even pushing it forward. So once home out does the screwdrivers.the only thing stopping the triigger from going forward was a spring
putting pressure on the trigger supposedly to stop trigger from going far enough forward to go off.. Also noted on reassemble that if I tightened trigger guard screw real tight it would no #### propperly. Back the screw out all is well.
Anyone else experience this.
Thanks.
 
muzzle flash said:
Just been going over my first range outing wth a new to me Swiss1889. Loaded and shot better than I expected. Although an interesting thing became apparent which I found you could discharge the firearm be either pulling the trigger or even pushing it forward. So once home out does the screwdrivers.the only thing stopping the triigger from going forward was a spring
putting pressure on the trigger supposedly to stop trigger from going far enough forward to go off.. Also noted on reassemble that if I tightened trigger guard screw real tight it would no #### propperly. Back the screw out all is well.
Anyone else experience this.
Thanks.
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I have experienced this too! First off, thank you so much for posting this because you helped me fix my issue with my 1889 that was almost the same as yours.

I got a Swiss 1889 recently and when I was seeing if it worked, the trigger would not release the striker. It wouldn't fire no matter how I pulled the trigger. Though I did notice that it'd fire by pushing the trigger forward, like you. It seemed like the problem was the trigger not having enough travel before the bottom of the trigger ran into the trigger guard. I took apart the gun and examined the trigger mechanism but nothing seemed out of place or overly worn. Then I read your post where you loosened the trigger guard screw and that worked! Just that extra fraction of a millimeter gave the trigger the clearance to fully drop the seer. Your problem seemed to be more severe since you couldn't even pull your bolt past the seer. I could at least run the bolt, it just wouldn't shoot.

Anyways, thanks for sharing your experience and helping me solve this issue. I felt I'd add my experience here to help people in the future with this interesting Swiss 1889 quirk.
 
I must admit I haven't shot my 1889 and I mainly got it to fit into my Swiss rifle collection. I do want to shoot it some day and I will have to reload myself to do so because I haven't seen ammunition for it on the market. I don't have any reloading tools though so that's a distant aspiration.

7.5x55 Swiss, aka GP11, that's made today is too powerful to safely shoot out of the 1889. The 1889 was designed along with the GP90 cartridge which is a lower pressure round. If you're looking into reloading for an 1889, I would recommend looking for recipes for GP90/23 or 7.5x54.5. The GP90 went through a few iterations through its service life and GP90/23 was the final iteration using fully smokeless powder and a full metal jacketed projectile. I say that having no practical experience reloading though, just book knowledge.
 
machman said:
Are you 1899 shooters reloading to shoot your rifles, or?
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When I shot my G1889, G1889/96, 1897 Cadet, and K1893 it was all reloaded rounds. I have about 2 rounds of original GP-90/23 which I don’t intend to waste on a couple quick shots at the range.

Factory ammo is nonexistent at safe pressure for the 1889, the other actions should be theoretically able to handle it however most of them won’t chamber GP-11 and it isn’t recommended. For whatever reason the G1889 seems to be more willing to chamber GP-11 sized ammo than the other early Swiss rifles. My K1893 was the worst, rounds that worked fine in the others wouldn’t chamber in it. Had to make sure the brass and case size was 100% proper, no wiggle room.
 
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