I didn't like the look of em, then a buddy bought one and I have had the opportunity to shoot it on a recent coyote hunt.... thats right, a coyote hunt. If I had that sort of disposable cash available for a rifle, I'd get one, but I don't right now. They have an excellent design, and function is excellent. A nice piece, but one of those items you have to try before you can appreciate it. The AR at half the price will have to do for me for the time being. Something to be said for being able to take it out and pop off a few rounds at the local farm whenever you want though.