T2 Garand - Part 1
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Kind of pricey after taxes and shipping. Note how the Marstar ad trash talks the "inferior commercial conversions". I've built a number of these on Breda and Beretta receivers using surplus Italian Tipo 2 parts (shortened op rods, barrels, and stocks), many of which are NOS or like new. They work very well and are fun to shoot.
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They must be good !
All other 308 Garands are
All other 308 Garands are
I want one, but can't justify the money - right now - will have to save up and explain to my wife how significant this rifle is.
I like that they use 7.62x51 because it can be found for .75 cents each. Does this feature change the street cred of this rifle?
I like that they use 7.62x51 because it can be found for .75 cents each. Does this feature change the street cred of this rifle?
I dunno....pretty pricey, proprietary parts (or expensive smithing to make them) if you blow something. I'd rather throw a new commercial .308 barrel on an existing M1.
My thoughts are they used up existing parts to make these probably as a make work project ...ie shortened 30'06 barrels to .308 on the chamber end rather then just make new .308 full sized barrels. Everything else is M1 except the handguard and oprod which had to be shortened. Common sense says make new 308 barrels, less work then these conversions....
My thoughts are they used up existing parts to make these probably as a make work project ...ie shortened 30'06 barrels to .308 on the chamber end rather then just make new .308 full sized barrels. Everything else is M1 except the handguard and oprod which had to be shortened. Common sense says make new 308 barrels, less work then these conversions....
• All markings are correct and are intact
• Beautiful stampings on the receiver and wood
• German proof mark is intact
• Metal finish and wood stocks are in great condition
• Front sight may lean slightly (indexing). Fully adjustable rear sight.
• Beautiful stampings on the receiver and wood
• German proof mark is intact
• Metal finish and wood stocks are in great condition
• Front sight may lean slightly (indexing). Fully adjustable rear sight.
Improper barrel indexing is a sure sign of an unskilled barrel installation. The good news is that it can normally be corrected w/o too much difficulty. It does beg the question of proper functionality though. There's more to assembling a serviceable Garand than just putting a bunch of parts together.
#1bcshooter
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I want one, but can't justify the money - right now - will have to save up and explain to my wife how significant this rifle is.
I like that they use 7.62x51 because it can be found for .75 cents each. Does this feature change the street cred of this rifle?
These won't last long. I am surprised they are even in Canada. A year from now you can add a couple of hundred dollars to the asking price. Five years from now?????
John knows his stuff on these conversions. I have one I purchased from him at the Penticton gun show this spring. It wasn't CHEAP but it was fairly priced and it is all done properly in every manner. It shoots Hirtenberger surplus 7.62 Nato better than the rifle in the Marstar video as well.
Still, the government conversions are not normally available at any price. With all of the cartouches intact, collectors will appreciate having one in their safe. Obviously the rifles were put together as quickly and cheaply as possible. If memory serves they were supposed to be rear echelon issue and a stop gap to utilize huge quantities of stored ammo.
International offered the BM-59 rifles which seemed to be highly priced but they all moved very quickly. Later they became prohibited as all of the receivers were originally full auto and had 20 round mags. I shot one of those but it wasn't any different than the M14s available at the time for lower prices. It was more accurate though.
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