T97 vs the cold?

Martin248

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Back when we were having a cold snap and it was about -20c, I acquired my t97 and wasn't about to wait for warmer weather to try it. Results were disappointing, at least one failure to feed in each ten round mag, sometimes the first round on release of the bolt, sometimes a round in the middle of the mag. Rarely got through a mag.

I went home, filed a bit off my feed ramps per posts here, and went back out in the bitter cold, again, fail. Mostly rounds slam into the bottom of the chamber and the bullet gets pushed in. Sometimes they bounce up like a stove pipe except on feed rather than extract. Ether way jamming the action open.

I had been using grey polymer LAR mags which everyone says are junk, and the mag it came with, so I acquired a black metal LAR with orange follower. Finally went back out with it today, warm spring weather.

Well. Hundreds of rounds later I cannot make the rifle fail, it ate everything I fed it including going through about 200 rounds of junk norc ammo. No problem.

I did mostly use the new metal mag, but towards the end switched back to grey polymer. About forty rounds through that no problem either, where I never got through ten rounds in a row without a failure before. So maybe it was the cold?

None of my other rifles have ever acted up in the cold before, including my norc m305. Same lubricant on both rifles.

Not that I can likely test this again until next winter, but what might be the cause and what should I look at? Anything I should do differently next winter? And any problem I should look for now that may just have been revealed by the cold?
 
Perhaps the break in period with hundred of rounds with "better" mags, polished down some rough spots, which is allowing the "poor" mags to function better.
 
AFAIK, there is some well know feeding issue with LAR mags. Last I checked, the LAR mag seems to sit too low. At my last trip to the range, I also got FTF if the bullet are sitting too much forward in the mag. Knocking the mag on a hard surface to move the bullets flush with the back of the mag seemed to help.

I'm also getting FTF with the 30/5 e-lander mag which came with the rifle. On a second e-lander mag, I'm not getting any FTF. The first mag seem to be rather loose in the mag well, not the second.

ps: as of last week, the rifle should have something like 350 rounds down the pipe.
 
I shot mine in -25 ish and it worked fine. I think your problem was with the magazine you were using. If it was not the mag, it could be the lubricant it comes drenched in. I would recommend cleaning that off and using a lubricant that is rated for low temperatures for next winter.
 
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