Takedown rifles,

S

southernman

Regular
Super GunNutz
Rating - 100%
12   0   0
Location
Taranaki New Zealand/Fort Mc Murray, Alberta
I have decided to pick up one of these, have missed out on a deer and pig last time back in New Zealand and would like sum thing that can be quickly assambled, suitable for deer, thar ect,
Rifle must be capable of 300 plus range, and repeatable.

Currently looking at Mauser M03, kreigoff semipro (pump action) Dakota, sauer 202, and perhaps the Verney Caron takedown,

Has any one got one of any of the above, any one in Alberta,that might let me take a few shots, sometime over the summer, especially the semipro, and Mauser,

Been doing a lot of traveling the past few years and sick of full sized rifles, any of the fellow who have been to Africa, I would like your thoughts on the semipro esp for harsh conditions.
Your thought
Thanks
 
I have learned to carry breakdown rifles overseas now - after several trips I got tired f the large, visible and now expensive to bring, cases. I have settled on bringing one of my breakdown (heavier bore) double rifles and a breakdown lighter bore.
Both fit into a case a little bigger than a trumpet case.

I have the Fabarm Iris and I like it a lot. I can have it in 9.3x62 or .308 or 270wsm. The receiver is an alloy and the bbls are basically out of the Merkel factory. Accurate as all get out.
The breakdown involves screws into the receiver. Good system - but not suburb.
Repeatability after takedown is not a concern as one or 2 shots after assembly brings you back to zero in any event. Something you would do with any rifle after a long trip.

You listed several good ones. I would look long and hard at Merkel's new Helix. It's takedown is a lever device...nice. I have not handled it, but it appears simple and elegant.
Btw... do not discount single shots such as the older BRNO Effect, the Luxus or Haenel single shot. Many times they are all that are required, give good accuracy and fantastic portability. I have learned that multiple shots are not required most times. And most times, it is all you have a chance for.

I have also road tested the BLR takedown in 325wsm and would not hesitate using it overseas. I feel the value in that rifle is very good for a breakdown and packable design.
 
I have a few BLR take downs including 325 short mag, flip a convenient lever give the forearm a twist and 1 becomes 2. Reverse the process and I have never had a problem with returning to zero
 
buckbrush said:
A glass bedded Mauser 98 is a takedown, remove 2 action screws and pull apart. Reassemble bottom metal to reciever. Done. this is best done with a military type trigger.
Click to expand...

I have carried a spare rifle a few times like this, rolled up tight in a bedroll. :)

One of the nicest guys I ever guided, Richard Van Vorst, the president and CEO of Modern Plastics Company ended up using it one time. He arrived in Whitehorse with his rifle, a 300 Win mag Model 70 broken in two through the grip by the airline gorillas in spite of being in a hard case. He was fit to be tied when he arrived in base camp, but lit up with a smile when I showed him the little 270 Husqvarna featherweight I had carried into camp lashed down in a top pack on a horse.

I had not sighted it in yet, and he was quite amazed when all it was exactly three inches high at 100 yd on the second shot. He passed away in 2006, and his sheep now hangs in his alma mater, USC.

Ted
 
I have Mauser M03, Verney Caron takedown and Fabarm Asper.
Mauser is not really a takedown rifle. It allows you to change the different barrels, but it still is big and cumbersome to travel with.
Verney Caron is a much better setup. The best package is the Fabarm Asper. I do not know if you can consider a double rifle, but it is the most compact set up.
 
Why not? said:
I have carried a spare rifle a few times like this, rolled up tight in a bedroll. :)

One of the nicest guys I ever guided, Richard Van Vorst, the president and CEO of Modern Plastics Company ended up using it one time. He arrived in Whitehorse with his rifle, a 300 Win mag Model 70 broken in two through the grip by the airline gorillas in spite of being in a hard case. He was fit to be tied when he arrived in base camp, but lit up with a smile when I showed him the little 270 Husqvarna featherweight I had carried into camp lashed down in a top pack on a horse.

I had not sighted it in yet, and he was quite amazed when all it was exactly three inches high at 100 yd on the second shot. He passed away in 2006, and his sheep now hangs in his alma mater, USC.

Ted
Click to expand...
Ted,
if you and or rifles could tell all those stories in or from the bush ...

Phil
 
razorbeck said:
I have a few BLR take downs including 325 short mag, flip a convenient lever give the forearm a twist and 1 becomes 2. Reverse the process and I have never had a problem with returning to zero
Click to expand...

is the lever (to help to be become a take down) at risk to break? seems you have to keep that lever up and so it can break.
 
Plenty of single shots out there that will take down easily. Thompson Centre, if you're feeling spendy. Or Baikal or NEF/H&R, if you aren't. Or Rossi, if you want to be cheap.

If it were me, I'd either buy a Thompson Centre and be prepared to shell out for a pricy barrel, or a Baikal.
 
Considering he's rattling off $8,000 options I doubt he sees the TC as spendy, or what he's after. ;)

Sauer 202 Forest (20") Takedown with spare .30-06 barrel, and Merkel 140AE (24" barrels) .375 H&H. I was seeking a takedown Lion hunting rifle and prefer the double by a wide margin. Doubles aren't for everyone mind you, nor every application, but they are one of the best takedowns.

 
Why not? said:
I have carried a spare rifle a few times like this, rolled up tight in a bedroll. :)

One of the nicest guys I ever guided, Richard Van Vorst, the president and CEO of Modern Plastics Company ended up using it one time. He arrived in Whitehorse with his rifle, a 300 Win mag Model 70 broken in two through the grip by the airline gorillas in spite of being in a hard case. He was fit to be tied when he arrived in base camp, but lit up with a smile when I showed him the little 270 Husqvarna featherweight I had carried into camp lashed down in a top pack on a horse.

I had not sighted it in yet, and he was quite amazed when all it was exactly three inches high at 100 yd on the second shot. He passed away in 2006, and his sheep now hangs in his alma mater, USC.

Ted
Click to expand...

Enjoyed that Ted, thanks for sharing. Nothing can compete with the price point of a slot-screw-takedown, nor can it be denied it bloody well works.
 
TheCoachZed said:
Plenty of single shots out there that will take down easily. Thompson Centre, if you're feeling spendy. Or Baikal or NEF/H&R, if you aren't. Or Rossi, if you want to be cheap.

If it were me, I'd either buy a Thompson Centre and be prepared to shell out for a pricy barrel, or a Baikal.
Click to expand...

The problem with the TC is that you need a screwdriver or allen wrench to assemble/disassemble it and we all know what happens when you need a tool to do something:)
 
The Lever on a takedown is the locking mechanism and it has a pocket to fold into so when not in use it disapears

https://www.google.ca/search?q=browning+blr+takedown&safe=off&rlz=1C1GPEA_enCA318CA328&es_sm=93&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=Bq1QVfi_O8a1ogTekoDQAg&ved=0CC8QsAQ&biw=1680&bih=935#imgrc=v0WqJVu5mYHWWM%253A%3BKsuns56a2WnLiM%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.gunmart.net%252Fimages%252Fcontent%252Fgun_reviews%252F405%252FD.JPG%3Bhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.gunmart.net%252Fgun_review%252Fbrowning_blr_light_weight_take-down%3B288%3B193
 
Ardent said:
Considering he's rattling off $8,000 options I doubt he sees the TC as spendy, or what he's after. ;)

Sauer 202 Forest (20") Takedown with spare .30-06 barrel, and Merkel 140AE (24" barrels) .375 H&H. I was seeking a takedown Lion hunting rifle and prefer the double by a wide margin. Doubles aren't for everyone mind you, nor every application, but they are one of the best takedowns.

Click to expand...

Ardent, had I known about the Sauer I doubt if I'd have gone the custom switch barrel route, and would instead have opted for a 3 barrel system I could have had in weeks, rather than the custom rig that is taking months, and will undoubtedly be similar in cost. Clearly I need to pay closer attention to the important advancements being made in modern sporting rifle design, and less time wringing my hands over the race to the bottom that's being engaged in by the big 5 American bolt action rifle manufacturers.
 
On the cheaper end, takedown swap barrels sets are a relative snap on the H&R platform... I have done dozens of sets... I also make a tools free QD knob... field breakdown and reassembly in 10 seconds... the QD knob has the added benefit of allowing torque values to be preset and returned to original, which makes POI far more consistent.
 
And for a working rifle, I really can't fault the H&R. A coworker flies with one as his "I bent the machine and need to eat" gun. It's cheap enough if it gets wet and the oil doesn't hold up he can laugh it off, and shoots as well as my former $8,000 Sauer I wrote the review of. Not a repeater, but if it's for hunting that's nearly a moot point of course. Something to be said for a gun you don't need an insurance policy on to carry without sweating, even better affordable enough if it falls off a cliff it's just a funny story.
 
Boomer said:
Ardent, had I known about the Sauer I doubt if I'd have gone the custom switch barrel route, and would instead have opted for a 3 barrel system I could have had in weeks, rather than the custom rig that is taking months, and will undoubtedly be similar in cost. Clearly I need to pay closer attention to the important advancements being made in modern sporting rifle design, and less time wringing my hands over the race to the bottom that's being engaged in by the big 5 American bolt action rifle manufacturers.
Click to expand...

I had mixed feelings on it, it is without question a good rifle, but also a serious question was posed for me in if it was worth what they sell for. Put a link to the review on the first page of this thread, it will be able to outline my thoughts on it far better than trying to summarize here. In the end, the biggest misgiving I had with it came from the shooter, as it just didn't hit naturally for me on snap shoots. Stock shape, length, and balance were all wrong for me. The manufacturing other than some of the checkering was superb and fully German in quality. I did appreciate that I could fit a 9.3x62 repeater in a standard briefcase, but in the end wasn't able to be comfortable with the rifle.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top Bottom