Taking a course to pass my CFSC and CRFSC?

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Hello Folks,

I am very interested in obtaining my PAL-R but know little about guns. Would you recommend taking an instructor led courses before writing the two exams?
If the answer is yes, can anyone please recommend a good place to go get educated in the GTA?
About how much cash an I looking to drop on both training for and writing the CRFSC and CFSC and how long will these courses take?

Thank you!
 
I'd download the course material PDF for free and go over it before signing up for a course and see how you do.

Here is the first one, Google the other Restricted one.

h ttp://www.gov.pe.ca/photos/original/CFSCmanualVer2.pdf
 
The instructor I went with was Phil Smith. His email is certifiedfirearms@hotmail.com and you can contact him that way. I paid $260 for both courses, but I didn't buy the books as they're easily found online. If you want hard copies they're $15 a piece. His courses, at least for the past few months, run 2 days, 10 hour days, and then both tests the following day. It's a Saturday/Sunday/Monday deal, with the test being able to be taken pretty much any time of the day on Monday.
 
the course is meant for people like you!

I knew very little about firearms and the course was the first time I had to handle many of the actions. Anyone who has passed grade 8 can pass the written exam, but for the practical you should have some hands on experience.

The course can be informative and entertaining and give you a chance to get most of the dumb questions out of the way (for the rest of the dumb questions, there's always CGN). :)
 
Slatibartfast said:
Hello Folks,

I am very interested in obtaining my PAL-R but know little about guns. Would you recommend taking an instructor led courses before writing the two exams?
If the answer is yes, can anyone please recommend a good place to go get educated in the GTA?
About how much cash an I looking to drop on both training for and writing the CRFSC and CFSC and how long will these courses take?

Thank you!
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well in total youl be paying 70 bucks per course witch I would recommend to take it gives you an idea on how guns work , I took my none restricted course on may 20th and went for my restricted on june 15th by june 19th the RCMP got my applications I phoned into them yesterday and they said they are working on my applications and I should get a call soon so in total I have been waiting 4 months but you can take the courses closer together witch would make the time so much shorter , this is an expensive hobby but very fun.
 
trev82 said:
well in total youl be paying 70 bucks per course witch I would recommend to take it gives you an idea on how guns work , I took my none restricted course on may 20th and went for my restricted on june 15th by june 19th the RCMP got my applications I phoned into them yesterday and they said they are working on my applications and I should get a call soon so in total I have been waiting 4 months but you can take the courses closer together witch would make the time so much shorter , this is an expensive hobby but very fun.
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I believe the courses you mention here Safety & Restricted although have hands on elements, I don't believe are the same as the other posters are refering to although they may cover some of the main handling points they should be more extensive for $325.00.
 
I would recommend the course, will give you better hands on experience if you haven't handled firearms before.
 
Slatibartfast said:
Hello Folks,

I am very interested in obtaining my PAL-R but know little about guns. Would you recommend taking an instructor led courses before writing the two exams?
If the answer is yes, can anyone please recommend a good place to go get educated in the GTA?
About how much cash an I looking to drop on both training for and writing the CRFSC and CFSC and how long will these courses take?

Thank you!
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Walter Bent's courses where excellent as far as I was concerned.

http://www.firearms-hunter-education.com/
 
Magellann said:
I'd recommend the courses, they cost about $325.00 in the Toronto area.
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Both Canadian Firearms Safety Course & Restricted Firearms Safety Course ( Includes both tests & minimum 16 hours classroom instruction ) = $260 in Ontario - certified instructors are not allowed to charge more by FSESo_Org (the governing body here).
 
Hello again,

Thanks to everyone who replied - you guys made some excellent points. The reality is that I can get the books and videos online for free and write the exam without taking any courses.
260 is a considerable chunk of cash so I am hoping that by taking these courses I could get something valuable that I cannot get by simply reading the books on my own.
In your experience, would you say that these courses could provide me with some hands on experience with unloaded guns? Ie getting to know gun components; examining and or cleaning them? Or do they basically show a bunch of videos and that is it?

By the way, I got interested in this because my parents moved to Texas! You won't believe how many shooting clubs there are in Texas! I shot out of a Desert Eagle and M16 and all they needed was my drivers license and 20 bux (plus cost of ammunition).

Thanks again.
 
silverfoxdj said:
I believe the courses you mention here Safety & Restricted although have hands on elements, I don't believe are the same as the other posters are refering to although they may cover some of the main handling points they should be more extensive for $325.00.
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ya I don't know where he gets 325$ from I payed 80 10 bucks covered Lunch witch was cool so the course costed me 70 bucks per course and each course takes a day to do I did both couses on a Saturday 3 weeks apart from each other like I said 70 bucks per course 140 for two courses then the 80 dollars the RCMP charge you witch comes up to about 220$ but its well worth it cause after you get accepted you don't have to renew for another 5 years and it will be cheap like 60 bucks
 
I took my course and exam with Firearm Academy of Canada (FAC) and cost me $270. Other places may be cheaper. You save some $$ if you download/print the manual and get your own photo for your card. Now in your post, you said you have very little experience in firearms, THAT alone tells me that you should do the full course as opposed to attempting to challenge it. The reason is from a safety standpoint (for yourself and your fellow shooters) and also to get hands-on familiarity with the firearms that you will be using during the practical exam.
 
There seems to be a lot of variation in how much gun handling instructors provide. I intersperse the gun handling with the lectures. I have two sets (which are mostly identical) of the five action types for the CFSC.

1. ACTS & PROVE 5 action types (no ammo)
2. ACTS & PROVE 5 action types + loading and unloading
3. ACTS & PROVE 5 action types + loading and unloading + shooting positions
4. ACTS & PROVE 5 action types + loading and unloading + carry methods
5. ACTS & PROVE 5 action types + loading and unloading + shooting positions + carry methods
6. ACTS & PROVE 5 action types + loading and unloading + shooting positions + carry methods

So the way I structure it, everyone gets to handle a gun 30 times in the CFSC. If a student is really struggling with the handling portion, I will try to get them a few extra rotations of practice.

For the CRFSC, instead of using just the required 3 guns per 10 students, I use 5 guns (an extra semi-auto and single action revolver give people more practice with the trickier mechanisms). This gives a total of 10 guns on the 'firing line' so half the class can do handling at a time.

1. ACTS & PROVE 3 action types (no ammo)
2. ACTS & PROVE 3 action types + loading and unloading
3. ACTS & PROVE 3 action types + loading and unloading + shooting positions
4. ACTS & PROVE 3 action types + loading and unloading + shooting positions + safe storage/transport

Given the extra handguns I use, everyone gets to handle a handgun about 20 times in the CRFSC.

If you're not getting lots of supervised gun handling (I have two instructors supervising ten students), you're not getting good value for your money (FYI, fees are set at the provincial level).
 
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