Alright, I've currently got a williams wgrs on my 7600. I've been through 2 of em in the last 13 years cause they get awful chewed up with the set screws jamming into the aluminum. So now I'm looking at the FP receiver sight, only thing is I'm extremely apprehensive about getting holes drilled into my baby to get it put on. Will those holes do anything to the integrity of the receiver? This gun is my baby, a love affair of 14 years if the barrel was bigger I'd #### it. It's the only rifle I use, the first one I bought a hour after I pulled my pal outta the envelope. Just need some coaxing I suppose. Don't wanna hurt my baby!
talk me into a williams FP peep sight
- Thread starter trapoholic
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I never thought those two tapped holes into the side hurt anything? But having someone not sure and ending up with 4 or 5 holes to get two in line might start creating problems? And good on you for using the apertures - I never even tried until I was past 60, and should have been using them since my teens, I think!! Also, Thinking - I bought a used rifle - side mount scope base - one hole drilled into the bolt!!! Strip the receiver, completely, before drilling into it!!!
Go for it. I had 1 on m'y mid seventies 760. Uséd it for many years. Had to have the receiver drilled and tapped. No problems. I think you will find that the FP is a little more sturdy and has more precise adjustments than the wgrs. Currently have a FP on a Savage 99 . Sight has been on this gun since 1975 with no problem. Cheers Bac4
Have a couple peep sighed rifles. I have the scope mount style and they are ok. But must say the FP style are at their best when using the target knob style of peep. You can dial in with great accuracy, much better in fine tuning, and in the field, with pre determined sightings, you will be effective well past 100 yards. and if you go one step further, get the front globe sight....as close to placing a scope on your rifle as you can get with this old but proven tech.
Consider that the old timer rifles had receivers routinely factory drilled for such peeps back in and prior to the early 60s...no ill affects then...none expected now.
if you are going to these styles consider spending a few more bucks on the target knobs...investment well worth it.
Consider that the old timer rifles had receivers routinely factory drilled for such peeps back in and prior to the early 60s...no ill affects then...none expected now.
if you are going to these styles consider spending a few more bucks on the target knobs...investment well worth it.
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madtrapper143
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The WGRS is a little more finicky to adjust. The screws do chew up but remember that they are tiny and screwed into aluminum. Use jewelers screwdrivers and blue Loctite and no muscle. I much prefer the WGRS over the FP on the 760 7600 series rifles and carbines. Firstly they do not change the gun in anyway. I have always found them more than accurate for peep sight distances. They are also more streamlined than the old FP. Not trying to talk you out of the FP but just extolling the virtues of the WGRS on the 760 7600 Remington pump rifle.
Darryl
Darryl
The two mounting holes are in a non stressed part of the action, no problems. Be absolutely sure that whoever does the work knows exactly what they're doing, there's no practical going back if the hole spacing is off a hair or not true to the bore axis. The Foolproof is an excellent precise rugged sight, easy to use, very accurate with a little practice. Much better than open sights for poor lighting or snap shootig. A note of caution- the adjusting screws are secured with safety screws that MUST be backed of before turning the adjusting screw and secured again when you are finished. Fail to back the set screw off and you will chew up the threads on your adjusting screw and probably the screw head as well. This is covered well in the instructions that come with a new sight.
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patricksbb391
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You will shoot better.
Thanks man, been using peeps on guns since I was little, all grampas guns had them so they were just a obvious choice I guess. I remember when I was about 5 years old shooting my grampas marlin 22 mag at the "100 yard stone" across the field from the back deck. I got so I could hit it with the scope every time then he made me switch to the peep until I could hit it every time. It's about a pie plate sized rock. Once I could hit it every time he said "son, anybody can hit that at 100 yards with a scope. But when you can do it every time with peeps or iron sights, only then are you a real marksman. You're a rifleman now boy" over the years I've made more than one 100 plus yard shot on deer with my peep sights with absolute confidence I'm gonna hit where I intended to. Each time it's been like grampa was looking over my shoulder and I could still hear his voice say "you're a rifleman now boy"
Sorry for the long story, just got me thinking of grampa and where most of what I learned came from.
Honestly I wanna stay from anything resembling a scope whatsoever. I don't like them. I'm a dogger for most of deer season and that's how I've killed about 70% of the 25 some odd deer I've shot. First thing I'll do when I open the package is take the apateur insert out and send it off into orbit. The way I hunt I need a line of sight as soon as it hits my shoulder.
I absolutely agree they work great! It's just after many load developments over time moving them up and down the ramp they get beat up really bad. Like I said above, after 25 deer and a bit none of the ones I pulled up on lived to talk about it. I'm just out for added durability. I'm a left handed shooter and the bulk of the sight will be on the left side of the receiver so it won't affect my sight picture any. Grampas 32 special has a fp sight on it and I really like it.
Gotta find a good gunsmith in the napanee area to install them for me. I don't have a donor receiver to experiment on first otherwise I'd do it myself.
Haven't had a critter get away yet
gunrunner100
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May have a FP for the 740/742/7400/760/7600 rifles.
For your description Trapaholic, have you considered the skinner sights. Simple peeps with ghost ring like apertures. may suit the purpose you describe. At any rate, shooting opens brings you back to the early times. The mule deer i shot with my peep sighted muzzle loader this year certainly brought me back to those early times. Before you toss that aperture to the bin consider sending it my way
Enjoy.
Elky....
Enjoy.
Elky....
I have a FP on my M94 reproduction in 38-55.
I am very pleased with it, and I can shoot very
well with it despite aging eyes.
I don't believe there are any issues with D&T your
receiver, but as mentioned, whoever does the work
must know what he is doing. Dave.
I am very pleased with it, and I can shoot very
well with it despite aging eyes.
I don't believe there are any issues with D&T your
receiver, but as mentioned, whoever does the work
must know what he is doing. Dave.
For your description Trapaholic, have you considered the skinner sights. Simple peeps with ghost ring like apertures. may suit the purpose you describe. At any rate, shooting opens brings you back to the early times. The mule deer i shot with my peep sighted muzzle loader this year certainly brought me back to those early times. Before you toss that aperture to the bin consider sending it my way
Enjoy.
Elky....
I'll be sure to send it your way my friend
my muzzleloader has open sights as well. Can't seem to find a peep sight for it anywhere. Never really looked at the Skinner sights to be honest, seen the price of them once and ran away pretty quick.Dave, man every time you've commented in one of my threads I feel like a celebrity came along
I've found 2 gunsmiths that will do it, one seems a little more knowledgeable so I think I'll get him to do it. If my gunsmith buddy from my home town still was in business it wouldn't be a question, he'd be doing it. Back home we're all bush folk who use peeps and irons he's done allot of them.
