Tanfoglio Force 22-New gun gloat and range report

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My new practice toy came in a little over a week ago. Having put 500 rounds through it already I'd like to share my findings. Oddly enough there's not a lot of information about this one. Partly because it isn't sold in the US and if there is any material about it from Europe then it's in some other language that my google'fu didn't turn up. I finally took the plunge based on the pistols listed weight and the gushing report thread from TheRick here at CGN.

Anyhow on to my own gloating.... :D

The Force 22 has a polymer frame, anodized aluminium slide and a regular good ol' steel barrel. It shoots the common .22 LR cartridges. Operation is the direct blowback principle. The gun is light in the hand at only 29 oz. However it has a full sized frame that appears to be taken directly from a 9mm Force model. The relative size is easily shown in the pictures below. The trigger is quite light to use being just a hair more pull than my CZ Shadow on single action. The Force 22 is single action only.

The gun shot just fine straight out of the case. The first few magazines saw holes all over the place which may have been me or just the barrel getting cleaned out by the bullets. But during the first two mags this all got fixed up and by the third mag it was shooting nice tight groups. The slide action and casing ejection is what amazed me. For a new pistol I'd expect the slide action and ejection to be a little lazy. But not the Force 22! Cases were flying all around with great gusto! And the slide action is fast and crisp right from the beginning. As the 500th round approached just today I did notice that the slide is getting a bit lazy and the ejection is not so spirited. Obviously I need to clean it which will be done before the next range outing.

The Force 22 fits very nicely in the hand with a grip size and shape that is close to the CZ Shadow. The difference being that it is a little more square'ish. As with most polymer framed guns the grips are part of the frame and not in any way changeable. But this IS a .22 so there's no real need for anything more. As shown the pattern provides pleanty of grip stability for this application thanks to a patterned front and back strap areas as well as the sides.

Shooting the Force 22 is a real treat. The light weight produces just enough of a kick to let you know you're shooting a real gun. Yet it's not enough kick to startle even the most timid new shooter. The trigger reset distance is quite short but not 1911 short. I haven't measured the pull but it is light without being light enough to accidentally release the hammer when not wanted. I've shot a couple of different Ruger Mk's, an S&W 22A, a High Standard match target pistol and an S&W model 63 .22 revolver. Of the lot the Force 22 is more fun than most and matches the joy of shooting the S&W revolver.

Another big aspect of my choice was my desire to use this as a practice gun for IPSC shooting. In that regard again the Force 22 excells with a frame shape that is very similar to the CZ Shadow which I'll be shooting in Production. The bit of kick compared to the other options helps me get practice in following the sights during rapid fire. The shots in the left side target were done in my best newbie double tap style. The other groups were a mix of fairly rapid fire and serious aiming.

Freedom Ventures lists the Force 22 at $599 which puts it over the cost of some of the other .22 pistol options but it isn't the most expensive option by any means. And from what I've seen so far the cost was well worth it. This is one fine and fun gun to shoot.

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Shelldrake, the target is one I made up myself using CAD. If you can print 11x17 paper I can send you a PDF of it.

It came from Freedom via a local dealer but it was a special order. Based on what they've seen of it so far and my big grins they are thinking of getting in another for use on their indoor range.

Rocketboy, like you I was not able to find out much about it. That's why I wrote this up so it could help others.

I'm hoping to keep it updated with reliability or any issues that occur over the next few thousand rounds of ammo. One area that I want to look into is trying other hotter .22LR loads to bump up the snap factor.
 
I haven't played with either of those so I can't give you a fair comparison.

I did find that mine does not like Blazer. Lots of stovepipes with that one. I also ran into trouble with American Eagle 5022 HV ammo. But in the case of AE I found the brick I bought was very inconsistent to the point I could feel significant differences in rounds with lots of very weak ones and the odd extra high power. Won't be buying any of that stuff ever again.

I THINK I'm getting into issues with the HV rounds because it's a direct blowback and the recoil spring is not strong enough. I'm going to look at some options to try to find a slightly stiffer spring and see if that helps.
 
Keep us posted on how this pistol feeds . I would love to get one but only if it's not too picky with ammo. Also ,thanks for your quick reply on my other post in regards to the Force.
 
Well, outside of Rugers, which I don't care all that much fore due to reasons I've posted before, I have yet to read about any .22 pistol that will eat ALL varieties of ammo. Along with my Force 22 I've also got a S&W 422. The 422 LOVES Blazer and Winchester Wildcats but chokes on the CCI Standard Velocity that the Force loves (so far).

There are tons of stories about the Sig Mosguito being a jam-O-matic on the web to the point that it's the first pistol typically recomended to NOT buy. But one day I was shooting my Force side by side with a Mosquito owner. They confirmed that it was fussy and there were only two types of ammo they found it to work well with but with that ammo it was reliable as the day is long.

Now I'm not trying to justify fussiness of any particular brand or model other than it seems that .22's can either be fussy about their ammo or at least that they require a bit of tuning to work best with a variety. I'm not working with a huge amount of experience on this as my .22 pistol exposure is limited to three guns other than some others I've shot for a magazine or two. But it certainly seems to be indicated from what I've seen so far.
 
My new Tanfoglio Force 22L arrived yesterday. I purchased the Tanfoglio for many of the same reasons as BCRider. I wanted a full size .22 that comes close to my quasi Shadow in size and feel.

The grip is a little smaller on the Tanfoglio but not by much. The thin aluminum grip panels available for the SP-01/Shadow would bring the two very close together in size. BCRider has already given a good report on the Force 22L so I will not repeat what he already stated. A couple of features not mentioned is the mags drop free and the Tanfoglio also has a firing pin block same as the CZ 75B series of pistols. Field stripping for cleaning is also no different.

For complete data on Tanfoglio Force 22L can be found here: http://www.genitron.com/HandgunDB/DB-Handgun-Detail.asp?ID=1339

Tanfoglio Force 22L on top. CZ SP-01/Shadow bottom.
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Coming this weekend will be the function and accuracy tests at the range.
 
Update

Arrived at the range yesterday to pop the cherry on my new Tanfoglio Force 22L. I was more concerned with function than with accuracy. I fired a total of 200 rounds from four different manufactures. As many of you already know, .22 auto-loaders can be fussy with ammo. Finding ammo the gun 'likes' can be part of the fun or a source of frustration for some people.

I used four brands of ammo, Winchester Wildcat, CCI Blazer, American Eagle and Fiocchi. All bullets were 40 grain plain lead solid (LRN). The Fiocchi ammo was standard velocity and the other three were high velocity loads. Tanfoglio recommends high velocity ammo but you won't find that in the owners manual.
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I set up the targets at 15 meters and used a two-handed, six o'clock hold. I shot ten rounds at each target concentrating on sight picture and trigger pull. I am very happy to find the Force 22L pistol fired all 200 rounds from four different manufactures without a problem. No failures to feed, fire or extract. As for accuracy, the pistol showed a slight preference for the Winchester Wildcat. On one target, I had a nice 8 round cluster with a couple of spoilers.

Overall, I am more than happy with my new Tanfoglio Force 22L. Having a pistol close enough to my CZ SP-01 using .22 LR ammo will allow me much more trigger time. Some of you may be thinking, why not just buy a Kadet Kit for the CZ? Well, that is another story.

Cheers.
 
To add to StoneHorse's post and to update by own material for anyone that's interested in how these feed....

I never had the same success with the HV ammo as StoneHorse or, for that matter, compared to the Force 22 that DVC Ventures got to add to their rental fleet a couple of months ago. In shooting theirs and mine back to back I noticed that theirs threw the brass with a bit more gusto. Especially with HV options. To test this I wound up a softer rate recoil spring from some music wire to try. Now my gun shoots almost as well as the other on HV rounds. It's still not really THROWING them but then these are .22's and none of the ones I've watch throws their brass like the centerfire guns.

I'm now able to shoot Blazer, Federal 525 and Winchester 333 bulk ammo quite well. I'm now getting about one stovepipe in 3 magazines where with these options it used to be one or two per magazine. It still prefers the 40 grain bullets but with a little more tuning I'm hoping to make it work well with the lighter bullet HV options.

I know it seems counter intuitive to run a SOFTER spring with the more powerful ammo. But if you think about it in this case where it's direct blowback it actually makes sense. With the stronger charges under lighter bullets the round propels the bullet out the end of the barrel and the pressure drops before it has a chance to fully accelerate the slide back to enough speed that it can extract the casing and throw it with enough gusto to ensure it clears the gun before the slide returns. If there's not enough time to clear the casing before it comes back and suddenly slows as it contacts and begins to move the new round forward then stovepipes are going to occur. Which is exactly what seems to be happening. The lighter recoil spring is doing a pretty nice job at fixing this and with a little more work I'm hoping for a full "cure". Certainly the fact that StoneHorse's and DVC's are working well indicates that I got a too strong spring for some reason. I may just try ordering a replacement from Freedom Ventures to see how it measures up just in case for some reason I had gotten one that was either out of spec or just plain and simply the wrong spring.


EDIT- By the way, in testing the HV ammo I noticed that this rather light gun does like to kick a bit. Not as HEAVY a recoil as the 9mm but the barrel lifts in much the same way and distance. As a result to my mind it makes this gun an even better option for practicing rapid style shooting for IPSC or IDPA practicing with cheap ammo.
 
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