Tang sight users? Question

Kilo Charlie

Kilo Charlie

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I note that the new Winchester long-barrel rifles have a tang sight, yet keep the open sights as well. Are most rifles shootable like this? Most of the tang-sighted rifles I've seen, and all the ones I've fired have had the open sight removed and a filler block put in. Just curious because I intend to mount a Marbles on my Savage '99 but I'm hesitant to drive the old sight out, mostly because I hate trying to re-centre if I decide to reinstall it.
 
If it's a pre-mil 99 then you can leave the sight in, the tang stands alot higher than the rear sight and you wouldn't need to use it. If it's a post-mil serial number than the only thing you can use is a Lyman 57SB or a Williams FP-99 due to the tang safety and they weren't D&T'd for tangs after 1,000,000.

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Not a receiver sight...the 26" barreled Legacies come with a windage and elevation adjustable flip-up Marbles TANG sight. I don't believe Winchester offers a receiver sight at this time. Maybe we're just using terms differently. A tang sight mounts on the tang, ie aft of the receiver proper. Or on traditional exposed-hammer guns, aft of the hammer. A receiver sight mounts just FORWARD of the hammer, usually on the side of the receiver. Both are peep or aperture sights.
 
Thanks MadDog...it's a pre-mil. 1920 vintage 1899 Featherweight in .250-3000 to be precise. Has a scope on it but I find the rifle handles and shoulders like a dream without the scope. The scope makes it feel a bit clunky. I've fired C's, EG's and F's (postwar) and they seem to balance well with a scope. Maybe it's the straight grip. It shoots really well for an 85-year-old takedown rifle, though. No trick to shoot under 2 MOA for 5 shots. Some days 1.5 inches. Strangely though, it shoots handloads and Remington ammo well, but with those ###y little 100 Silvertips, it shoots PATTERNS, not groups. Hmmmm.... I also find that even mild handloads shoot 'way above the Remmys, elevation-wise. So much so that even with the open sight as low as it goes, it groups about 6 inches high at 100 yards. Peep oughtta fix that. (I hope!) But if I want to get low, I may well have to drift that sporting sight out. Ah well, it's not the end of the world. I'll take solace by remembering that many of my shooting brethren have no 99 at all.
 
If you wanna tighten up those groups use some 87 or 75 gr pills.

The model 1899 250-3000 has a 1-14" twist and wasn't really made to make the 100 gr's very accurate. It changed in 1960 when they went to a 1-10" twist and the 100 gr's shot very well.
 
I intend to hunt with it. I find the groups pretty good....have shot sub-MOA 3-shot groups. Don't trust the lighter bullets for deer. In fact I may try the 117 Hornady roundnose for brush hunting. John Barsness was saying his 1:14 .250's shoot them quite well....surprisingly. He recommends 41 to 42 grains H4831. But since I plan to limit shots to about 200 yards, a 1.5 to 2 MOA rifle is fine.....as long as I practice enough to shoot it to its capability. Even when I lived in Alberta, my longest shot on a whitetail was 175 yards. Once. The rest were all between 20 and 75 yards. My hunting experience has been textbook, come to think of it. One whitetail at 175 yards, one at 125 yards, and a couple dozen at 75 yards or less. Closest was at 25 feet.
I have tried a few shots with the 87 gr. Hornady and RL15 powder. It shot as well as the 100 grainers, perhaps a wee bit better. I did have to shim the forestock with hockey tape to stop it from rattling around. That rifle shot HUGE groups when I first got it. Think I'll use the rest of the 87 Hornadys for hunting coyotes with my Roberts.
 
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