Target and Precision rifle

As I have never own one, what is the main attraction of these rifles from the regular sporting rifles?

The stock, accuracy etc?

Tom

This one is built to compete in F/O class competition:)
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This one is designeed for the Palma match ( 308, irons, and sling , shot prone)
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:)
Cat
 
As I have never own one, what is the main attraction of these rifles from the regular sporting rifles?

The stock, accuracy etc?

Tom

Shoot one round into a target at 100m.. then place the next 9 shots through the same hole. Zen Like meditation to get there. Once you have the rifle that can do it, now you have work to do. Your breathing, mental focus, your hand pressure, shoulder pressure, trigger press. All comes into play for that perfect group.

It is a serious addiction. I can spend 4 hours at the range, and maybe go through 100 rounds of high precision loaded rounds in pursuit of the perfect group. Once you get bored of 100m, take it to the next level. 300/600/1000m

Don't get me wrong. I love my high volume shooting days. Shoot until your wallet pukes from the strain, smokin hot barrels etc. But this animal, I would argue is even more addicting. 1" groups? Please try harder, Please load better, Relax more, Mentally prepare more.

It is satisfying in a way that is hard to explain. Some folks get it, and stay with it. Others, not so much. You want to try it on the cheap? Get a Tikka CTR. Get a decent brake installed. Get a decent scope on it. 2400.00. Now get a decent set of bags. 300. now load some high quality rounds and go play.

I was planning to suggest starting with a rimfire, but hi precision rimfire is more expensive ultimately to control accuracy because you cannot load your own hi precision ammo, and ELEYm Lapua, SK gets expensive. But you can get a SAVAGE TRRSR for a 1/2 the cost of a centerfire, glass will cost the same, now all you need is ammo. This is where prec rimfire really costs more than centerfire.

Conversely strike up a conversation with someone with a Precision Centerfire rifle who shows competencyat the range. Engage them in conversation, tell them you are interested. More often than not, we will invite you to shoot their rifle. Most likely you will post sub .7" groups at 100 with SOMEONE ELSE's well sorted rig.

It is not about slapping big dollar actions to big dollar barrels, and triggers and chassis and glass. It is about the journey to that 'perfect' group. Does this sound appealing? If so, start the conversation. If it doesn't start the conversation anyways, and try it out.

I have feet in all ponds. IPSC, Trap, Skeet, 5 stand, Sporting Clays, Precison Rifle, Service Rifle. All are great fun. Precision Rifle is less about quantity, and an emphasis on quality of shot. From the first round you build, to the gear you choose to use.
 
This one is built to compete in F/O class competition:)
dhHpGpy.jpg

This one is designeed for the Palma match ( 308, irons, and sling , shot prone)
NM5SpjH.jpg
:)
Cat

Ok cat thats a Savage Palma, with what looks like a portek front site. What the heck is the back site???????
 
I have a Ruger M77 Varmint (heavy barrel) rifle in .308; the first non-milsurp rifle I ever bought and the most accurate. I used it as my tack-driver hunting rifle for many years and it's put a lot of venison on the table as well as shooting the best group I ever shot it my life. As Got Juice? says, nothing beats the excitement you feel when you see all your rounds have produced one ragged hole in your target. My rifle is not, per se, a contender in the true precision class shooting, but for me it was deeply satisfying to see what the rifle combined with my handloads and my skill could accomplish. In the words of Mikey, "try it, you'll like it!".
 
tomL said:
As I have never own one, what is the main attraction of these rifles from the regular sporting rifles?

Zen Like meditation to get there.

In a nut shell...

The attraction to me is the focus that's required to get there. It doesn't stop as you close the gate and lock up, now it's time to go over the results, and tweak that recipe for long range goodness. Also applies to the gear, although that's not quite as satisfying if you don't have a good chunk of disposable income, but fear not you can still play on a budget.

5 shots at ~ 100m, I paid about $1450 before tax for the rifle as it sits, and I'm shooting ammo assembled with the cheapest match quality components I can find. Is it consistent, not at 0.330" (I'm not anyway), but it's pretty good, look up the last attempt on the 3/4 MOA challenge "sticky".

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Ok cat thats a Savage Palma, with what looks like a portek front site. What the heck is the back site???????

The back sight on that rifle is a ginormous copy of a Central with a Ghemann diopter !:rolleyes:
I got it from Pail Reibin years ago and used it on my BP rifles, and also the Ruger I bought from the the Rast that was set up for DCRS long range BP had one on it .
Paul knows who made them but I am not sure who .
I tend to use it more than my other Centrals because the knobs are bigger but the elevation scale is harder for my old eyes to see !:p
I have since sold the Savage and now am back to my other rifles but have those sights on a Sportco chamber in 6mmBR for offhand shooting out to 500 meters šŸ˜Ž
Cat
 
Shoot one round into a target at 100m.. then place the next 9 shots through the same hole. Zen Like meditation to get there. Once you have the rifle that can do it, now you have work to do. Your breathing, mental focus, your hand pressure, shoulder pressure, trigger press. All comes into play for that perfect group.

It is a serious addiction. I can spend 4 hours at the range, and maybe go through 100 rounds of high precision loaded rounds in pursuit of the perfect group. Once you get bored of 100m, take it to the next level. 300/600/1000m

Don't get me wrong. I love my high volume shooting days. Shoot until your wallet pukes from the strain, smokin hot barrels etc. But this animal, I would argue is even more addicting. 1" groups? Please try harder, Please load better, Relax more, Mentally prepare more.

It is satisfying in a way that is hard to explain. Some folks get it, and stay with it. Others, not so much. You want to try it on the cheap? Get a Tikka CTR. Get a decent brake installed. Get a decent scope on it. 2400.00. Now get a decent set of bags. 300. now load some high quality rounds and go play.

I was planning to suggest starting with a rimfire, but hi precision rimfire is more expensive ultimately to control accuracy because you cannot load your own hi precision ammo, and ELEYm Lapua, SK gets expensive. But you can get a SAVAGE TRRSR for a 1/2 the cost of a centerfire, glass will cost the same, now all you need is ammo. This is where prec rimfire really costs more than centerfire.

Conversely strike up a conversation with someone with a Precision Centerfire rifle who shows competencyat the range. Engage them in conversation, tell them you are interested. More often than not, we will invite you to shoot their rifle. Most likely you will post sub .7" groups at 100 with SOMEONE ELSE's well sorted rig.

It is not about slapping big dollar actions to big dollar barrels, and triggers and chassis and glass. It is about the journey to that 'perfect' group. Does this sound appealing? If so, start the conversation. If it doesn't start the conversation anyways, and try it out.

I have feet in all ponds. IPSC, Trap, Skeet, 5 stand, Sporting Clays, Precison Rifle, Service Rifle. All are great fun. Precision Rifle is less about quantity, and an emphasis on quality of shot. From the first round you build, to the gear you choose to use.

Wow, great post that is more than the sum of its words.
Sums it up perfectly to me.
 
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