Tavor upgrade wishlist...

ViktorF

ViktorF

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I know big picatinny rails are cool and everything, and there's a half a dozen budding young machinist's working on how to gob them onto the top of a tavor, but If I had only one upgrade I could get it-- would be the simple factory magnifier bracket. Follow the KISS rule, and use the weird plastic attachment point that the rifle already has cast into it. And yet these seemingly simple parts are unobtanium. So I'm throwing this out there... It looks simple enough to make, so how come I cant buy one? (a bracket, not a 18" long rail)
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Looks real nice.
Thats the magnifier that CanAm sells for $1,150.00 (pre-order only)
It would be nice to get just a railed bracket and try an aimpoint or eotech magnifier.
It would cut the cost down by a lot.
 
I've got money in hand for one as well. I have the factory rail all ready and don't want to replace it. I just want an adapter to use an Eotech/Aimpoint magnifier. I thought Raunch was working on one but haven't heard anything lately.
 
ViktorF said:
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My god, nobody noticed that the funky trigger guard is missing in this pic?

My Tavor is en route to Petey as I type this. Since day 1, I've toyed with the idea of modding the OEM guard and making some sorta conventional trigger guard. Never mentioned it 'cause I was sure to get flamed. But now that I've seen that IWI toyed with the idea gave me courage to speak up :D
 
lol I tried contacting meprolight about it but they dont have any distributors over here. Honestly if someone could make an adapter so we can use the aimpoint X3 I'd probably get it instead.
 
CanAm said:
That is an X95, not a TAR-21
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I dont know if that flame was directed at Petey the handguard guy or me for posting the picture...but at least I realize why the brackets look different in my two pictures:p. But seriously....there's people on here fabricating all sorts of gidgits, it seems to me that a dovetail type joint that slides over the circular section and a flat part to lock into the goofy cast spring section would result in some thing that locks into that part of the tavor that resembles some female anatomical widget used to produce children...or in this case hold a magnifier. make it out of plastic and it wont even mar the Tavor...

I also have tried emailing Zhal, meprolite, even some Brazillian guy I saw on the internet with a Tavor, and nobody even replies.:(
 
Rauch was going to make one, but last I heard it's just basically a picatinny rail that scews into the mount. Apparantly it's too complicated to actually make a picatinny rail that can take advantage of the quick release built into the tavor.
 
Deutsch Waffen said:
Rauch was going to make one, but last I heard it's just basically a picatinny rail that scews into the mount. Apparantly it's too complicated to actually make a picatinny rail that can take advantage of the quick release built into the tavor.
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I doubt its too complicated, more likely it isn't secure enough. It's fine for a magnification or NV tube, but you wouldn't want to slap a sight or anything onto that dovetail unit.
 
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Just tried out my new Tavor.

FOR THE LOVE OF THE LORD ALMIGHTY, HOW CAN I IMPROVE THE SUCKY TRIGGER ON THIS?

There has got to be a way to eliminate the creep on this thing. That much creep on a rifle is surely illegal under the Geneva Convention....:(

I can live with the trigger pull. But the creep? No way. If no one has a solution, then I fully intend to find a solution myself. Which may inadvertently cause another full-auto event (please don't ask), but nevertheless.....:redface:
 
There is a spring that can be removed to lighten up the pull but the trigger may not always reset. My idea is to just replace the spring and go progressively lighter until you finger out the lightest pull possible with the trigger still resetting 100%.
 
Just put it in a box and send it to me. I'll fix that trigger right up for you. ;)

peter2772000 said:
Just tried out my new Tavor.

FOR THE LOVE OF THE LORD ALMIGHTY, HOW CAN I IMPROVE THE SUCKY TRIGGER ON THIS?

There has got to be a way to eliminate the creep on this thing. That much creep on a rifle is surely illegal under the Geneva Convention....:(

I can live with the trigger pull. But the creep? No way. If no one has a solution, then I fully intend to find a solution myself. Which may inadvertently cause another full-auto event (please don't ask), but nevertheless.....:redface:
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One of the big issues with bullpups is the trigger pull. The common idea is that this is caused by the long and complicated trigger connector bar, which is true, but not only in the way most think it is.

One serious issue, especially in a military rifle, is that of drop testing. The bulky trigger mechanisms add inertia to the system when the gun is dropped, requiring a heavier-still trigger pull to counter the potential affects of this inertia during a fall, or sharp blow.

Think about taking your ar-15 and adding 50g of lead as a trigger shoe, then drop it on its butt while loaded.
 
CanAm said:
One of the big issues with bullpups is the trigger pull. The common idea is that this is caused by the long and complicated trigger connector bar, which is true, but not only in the way most think it is.

One serious issue, especially in a military rifle, is that of drop testing. The bulky trigger mechanisms add inertia to the system when the gun is dropped, requiring a heavier-still trigger pull to counter the potential affects of this inertia during a fall, or sharp blow.

Think about taking your ar-15 and adding 50g of lead as a trigger shoe, then drop it on its butt while loaded.
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That is an interesting perspective. Having taken the barrel out and looked at the trigger setup its plainly obvious, Its like the trigger bar in a glock in that gets overlooked with their 6 drop rule, but if you lube where that flat bar rides along the outside of the frame, the trigger becomes 10X better and really cuts back on creep. In a Tavor the plastic trigger pivots on a thin flexible piece of steel that slides into a tiny groove down one side of the rifle in order slide beside the action, instead of under it like in a normal firearm... Wholly Friction Batman. Especially when its all new. I put a small nylon o-ring on the outside most part where of the trigger where it goes thru the flat connecting bar just to hold the metal away from the side of the gun when the trigger is being pulled (less friction), that seemed to make quite a difference, but the channel it runs thru can trap dirt and is hard to clean and/or lube especially when you figure oil will trap dirt making it worse. Last time I cleaned it out really good and just put a squirt of remoil down the channel and lubed all the pivots with a drop of break free.

Does it still have a crappy trigger? Yep, you bet; but what did you expect from something with so many extra parts? The trigger on an AR is a direct link to the mechanism. The trigger on a Tavor is a link, to link, to a 12" long piece of sheet metal pushing along a piece of plastic,that pivots a part that activates the trigger group. Aim, hold and Pull quickly.
 
I hear the keltec rfb has a good trigger. They put the sear at the trigger, then have the linkage. Seems like a good idea to overcome the notoriously ####ty hullpup trigger.
 
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