Tell me about Farco CO2 50 cal /shotgun

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I made a deal on a Farco CO2 50cal./shotgun I remember reading about them years a go
Hopping the Farco will work out on Haida Gwaii deer with 50 cal ball ammo
Is there any thing I shood know about the Farco ?
Do you hunt with your big bore air rifles ?

 
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carverk said:
It being put in the mail tomorrow I will be running compress air not CO2
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You will get more power with air but there is no regulation. You will get even less useable shots on air. Co2 is a gas that expands and sort of self regulates. You also need to be carefull how much air you run as the gun is designed for co2 not air.

Maybe I misread but didn't the guy said he cut a hole in the pressure tube and patched it back together? You may want to save that info incase this gun blows up in your face. No I am not joking. I believe he was warned years and years ago by two professionals in the pressure industry.

Here is a little cut from a review of farcos.

"The person who wants a Farco must be the kind of airgunner who really appreciates grinder and file marks on a $460 airgun. The Farco is appropriate technology from the Philippines. This is a hand made gun and it is made with hand tools. Solder and brass tubing play an important part in its construction."
 
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shelby78 said:
You will get more power with air but there is no regulation. You will get even less useable shots on air. Co2 is a gas that expands and sort of self regulates. You also need to be carefull how much air you run as the gun is designed for co2 not air. Maybe I misread but didn't the guy said he cut a hole in the pressure tube and patched it back together?

Here is a little cut from a review of farcos.

"The person who wants a Farco must be the kind of airgunner who really appreciates grinder and file marks on a $460 airgun. The Farco is appropriate technology from the Philippines. This is a hand made gun and it is made with hand tools. Solder and brass tubing play an important part in its construction."
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This.

The first 2 shots will likely have different trajectories. The third shot definitely will.
 
unicorn gravedigger said:
3 shots before refill? So whats the numbers, grain of ball, fps etc...Co2 is no fan of cold weather.
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Ripped from the interwebz:

The Farco
In 1972, the Philippine government cracked down on private ownership of firearms and seized all the guns! The lesson to be learned from that is join the National Rifle Association and be glad to pay your dues! The United States may be the last free country on this planet, and liberals all over the world don’t want that to last much longer.

When they seized all the firearms, the government grudgingly allowed airguns to remain, because much of their rural population (and parts of the Philippines are VERY rural) survives by subsistence hunting. So, airguns suddenly became important, not unlike the UK, but for much more essential reasons. One gun that immediately sprang to the forefront was the Farco 28-gauge (.51-caliber) CO2-powered air shotgun.

How much power?
The Farco is a crudely made brass gun with a simple bent bolt that’s sealed by O-rings and a huge slow-operating valve that passes LOTS of gas when the gun fires. The combination of a long barrel and the hot Philippine climate encourage the most from CO2. CO2 only generates pressure in the 1,000 psi region, but, when the barrel is as long as the Farco’s, that’s enough to accelerate a 120-grain .433 Hornady lead ball to about 500 f.p.s when the temperature hovers around 80 degrees F. In the Philippines, it gets even hotter so the velocity will be higher.

Since the gun is 28 gauge, you can use the same plastic wads as a shotshell uses. That seals the bore very well for maximum efficiency. That velocity nets you just over 65 foot-pounds at the muzzle, or about what you get from a .22-caliber AirForce Condor.
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Even at 80 degrees, that's not deer slayin' power there. They go on to talk about about folks cranking them up with higher levels of compressed air. But they also go on to talk about them blowing up, so... yeah.

Also, the "cranked" ones were putting out a single shot at 200ftlbs. Thats 20% less than a .22mag. Not what most would consider ideal for deer.

And then there's the whole "hiking over rocks and bush with a 3000psi 3 & 1/2 foot long brass pipe bomb"...


I like my air guns. I also like knowing their limitations.
 
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Yet another thing to consider, is the size of the projectile, and what it does with the energy it's given. As in, how many ftlbs per square inch. This relates directly to penetration. Two projectiles of equal energy, but different sizes, will penetrate differently, as the larger projectile needs to displace more tissue per inch of penetration.

A run of the mill .22lr carries about 120ftlbs at the muzzle, and has a forward facing surface area of about .04 square inches. That works out to about 3000ftlbs per square inch.

The .433 ball carrying 200ftlbs has a forward facing surface area of about .15 square inches, so puts out only 1333 ftlbs per square inch... meaning that, while it would transfer more energy to the animal than a .22, it would likely only penetrate half as far. Which could be a pretty critical consideration.
 
carverk said:
I see I was hopping to use the rifle looks like I may send it back and look at the Dragonslayer
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Pay particular attention to the talk of CO2 and 80Deg+ Phillipines temperatures.

I think you will be far happier, spending a LOT more money on something designed and built (and well built, at that) for compressed air use.

High Pressure air tanks are pretty common for paintball guns these days, so while a hand pump can be used, you need not be reliant on 15 minutes of pumping, in order to get a follow up shot. Dive shops, for High Pressure Air. Lots of tire shops stocking Nitrogen too, another source for fills.

Cheers
Trev
 
trevj said:
Pay particular attention to the talk of CO2 and 80Deg+ Phillipines temperatures.

I think you will be far happier, spending a LOT more money on something designed and built (and well built, at that) for compressed air use.

High Pressure air tanks are pretty common for paintball guns these days, so while a hand pump can be used, you need not be reliant on 15 minutes of pumping, in order to get a follow up shot. Dive shops, for High Pressure Air. Lots of tire shops stocking Nitrogen too, another source for fills.

Cheers
Trev
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I backed out Of the deal and was givin a full refund
 
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