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Who makes the best one currently?

Are originals worth a look? (assuming I want to deal with old calibers)

Is there any way to tune the loading gates? Most of the 1892s I've handled had brutally stiff gates on them.
 
The new Win/Miroku are the cream of the crop, I have one in 44 RM and one in 44-40. When you say rifle do you literally mean rifle as in 24" barreled or are you referring to all 92 rifles in general including carbines? I also have many carbines and rifles in their original offering, but the new Win/Miroku are better built guns all around with nicer wood every bit as good fit and finish and using modern steels and their price is about the same or less than an oldie. There are several variations of these rifles and I'm not up to date on all the iterations available, but I'm sure the overall quality remains the same throughout the line up.
I've never experienced the stiff loading gate you describe in any of the originals or Miroku copies including a Browning B92 (also Miroku from many years ago) .........never handled a Rossi or other import crap, so I can't comment on those, other than I would never waste my money on another Rossi rifle as long as I live.
 
Who makes the best one currently?

Are originals worth a look? (assuming I want to deal with old calibers)

Is there any way to tune the loading gates? Most of the 1892s I've handled had brutally stiff gates on them
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Only push the last round thru.
Leaf the others slightly prodruded out the gate a wee bit.
Then yer pinkies won't git bit awn each round insertitted.
 
The older series Browning 92's are very nice and hold true to the original design with no extra added on safeties.
Still a few around in next to new condition and well worth the wait.
 
I have an original 92 in 32-20, and a handful of Miroku's is assorted models and Cal's. It's great to have one original but you can't beat the Miroku's for quality. I think if you find a new 92 go for it. Older 92's in good shape are going to run you some coin, and still not be as good as Miroku. Some say it's not a Winchester, I say it is, just a modern one. I agree with c-fbmi don't waste your money on the other's, been there and wished I stayed away.
 
The new Win/Miroku are the cream of the crop, .....

.........never handled a Rossi or other import crap, so I can't comment on those, other than I would never waste my money on another Rossi rifle as long as I live.

I'm curious why you've got no love for the Rossi's? Sorry your sentence is contradictory above as well...

We don't get away with much around here huh
 
I have an original 92 in 32-20, and a handful of Miroku's is assorted models and Cal's. It's great to have one original but you can't beat the Miroku's for quality. I think if you find a new 92 go for it. Older 92's in good shape are going to run you some coin, and still not be as good as Miroku. Some say it's not a Winchester, I say it is, just a modern one. I agree with c-fbmi don't waste your money on the other's, been there and wished I stayed away.

Yah, the Rossis are garbage and the company Br#####h won't sell you parts to fix the gun when it does break.
You have to send them for repairs to Rossis customer service department and they often come back in worse shape than when you sent them.
You'd be best to stay away from the Rossi 92s.

The Winchester (Miroku made) are dolled up with lawyer safety stuff (useless tang safety and rebounding hammer) that John Browning never included in his design.

The best 92s are the ones made by Miroku for Browning in the 1980s that didn't include the lawyer safety crap and were true to JBs design.
 
Who makes the best one currently?

Are originals worth a look? (assuming I want to deal with old calibers)

Is there any way to tune the loading gates? Most of the 1892s I've handled had brutally stiff gates on them.

I had a Chiappa 92 carbine in 44 mag that was a pretty decent, accurate rifle.
It cycled pretty slick and had nice wood and was true to design no lawyer safety crap and considerably cheaper than the Winchester Miroku 92s.
100 times better experience than I had with the Rossi 92s I owned and sold off in a hurry.
 
.........never handled a Rossi or other import crap, so I can't comment on those, other than I would never waste my money on another Rossi rifle as long as I live.

How can you comment on a gun that by your own admission you never handled?
Did you buy the gun and return it without opening the box and handling it?
 
I'm curious why you've got no love for the Rossi's? Sorry your sentence is contradictory above as well...

We don't get away with much around here huh



How can you comment on a gun that by your own admission you never handled?
Did you buy the gun and return it without opening the box and handling it?

It is clear to me that Douglas is saying he has not handled a Rossi "92", but does have experience with Rossi rifles in general and was not impressed and would never buy another one... also, my sentiments exactly.
 
Yah, the Rossis are garbage and the company Br#####h won't sell you parts to fix the gun when it does break.
You have to send them for repairs to Rossis customer service department and they often come back in worse shape than when you sent them.
You'd be best to stay away from the Rossi 92s.

The Winchester (Miroku made) are dolled up with lawyer safety stuff (useless tang safety and rebounding hammer) that John Browning never included in his design.

The best 92s are the ones made by Miroku for Browning in the 1980s that didn't include the lawyer safety crap and were true to JBs design.


True, the safety crap is not great. I had the safety deleted on all my Winchester's so I am happy with them. I do have Browning 92 in 44 Mag, made in Japan and Barrel stamped "Browning Arms Company Morgan Utah and Montreal PQ. It was made in 1982 if I recall very well made gun.
 
I like my rossi 92 but the fit and finish aren't great. I selected it in person from three rifles, the other two were even rougher. I wanted the chambering which is only done by rossi. Will probably replace the stock and tune up the internals some day
 
We have a chiappa 92 in 44 rem mag.
Workmanship, wood/metal fit, wood excellent.
Action smooth as a baby’s #### and quite accurate.
Good close up pig/black bear/deer gun.
Paid $595 for it a couple of years ago.
They were up over $800 last time I saw one on Epps website.
 
I like my rossi 92 but the fit and finish aren't great. I selected it in person from three rifles, the other two were even rougher. I wanted the chambering which is only done by rossi. Will probably replace the stock and tune up the internals some day

Checked a new rossi r92 out in 454 casall stateside last year.
The junky look and that stupid pig tail safety on top of the bolt turn me off.
The lever should have came with an extension handle it cycled so rough.
Put it back on the rack pretty quick.
Brazilian junk.
 
The new Win/Miroku are the cream of the crop, I have one in 44 RM and one in 44-40. When you say rifle do you literally mean rifle as in 24" barreled or are you referring to all 92 rifles in general including carbines? I also have many carbines and rifles in their original offering, but the new Win/Miroku are better built guns all around with nicer wood every bit as good fit and finish and using modern steels and their price is about the same or less than an oldie. There are several variations of these rifles and I'm not up to date on all the iterations available, but I'm sure the overall quality remains the same throughout the line up.
I've never experienced the stiff loading gate you describe in any of the originals or Miroku copies including a Browning B92 (also Miroku from many years ago) .........never handled a Rossi or other import crap, so I can't comment on those, other than I would never waste my money on another Rossi rifle as long as I live.

I'm leaning toward the 20" but I'm going to try to handle a 24" to see what I think. The shorter barrels are handy but you seem to give up a lot for that.

By stiff gates I mean as compared to something like an 1886 or 1873 where sticking shells straight in is smooth and effortless.
 
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Not so much loss in pistol rounds burning fast powders designed to reach max velocity in barrels less than a foot long.

Its that you give up quite a bit of ammo capacity, sight radius and muzzle steadiness with the short tubes.
 
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