That Made in Canada M203 project...

MikeH is bought a new house and having a baby.

We ran into a barrel problem - can't get them (legally)

So it is stalled until we can find a away legally to get barrels.
 
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"Its dead, Jim!"
 
Hmm, too bad as LMT does sell the barrels to civilians, but being in a different country which has signed onto ITAR presents serious legal problems. :evil:
 
I played with the (talking softly now), airsoft :oops: knockoff of the Knight's M203 stand alone. It was very close. Of course the logo etc were right on. The real KAC stand alone is in the $2,000ish US area. This one was, I believe in the $300can landed range. It had a 203 mounted on it, and I hate to admit, might be a possiblility. The leaf sight and some small stuff you could tell weren't KAC. As there is not a safety concern with it, pressures,etc don't come into play, this has possibilities for about 1/10th the price. ####, now I have to wash my mouth out :oops: ....
 
Just to clarify any misunderstanding, both the KAC and knockoff don't come with the 203, that gets added on by the owner/dept.
Hope I didn't get any chins waggin..... That's why I mentioned that pressures etc aren't a concern, 'cause you are using a real 203.
Sorry for any confusion, beat me with a soft stick please.
 
We can get the receivers and the internals made - that is not the problem.

The problem is barrels - I have spoken to KAC, LMT, and several others there is no legal way we can get them out of the USA.

Europe would- however external affairs views the ITAR as binding on that too
 
KevinB said:
The problem is barrels - I have spoken to KAC, LMT, and several others there is no legal way we can get them out of the USA.

Europe would- however external affairs views the ITAR as binding on that too
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Hmm, is there any way the rifled tube blanks could be exported and then finished in the Great White North?

Hey, Saddam tried it! :lol:
 
Apparently LMT does Diemaco's - so there is no Canadian production of 40MM barrels. A travesty some might say...

No one up here seems to have the capability to rifle the barrels - we could get 40mm or 37mm smoothbores - but then it just aint a M203.

I doubt you'd get any meaningful accuracy with a smoothbore at the velocities that these fly.
 
They are aluminium barrels, but I think the hard part would be the cutter for the rifling. And the cost to make a cutter would be big, especially for the intent of the civilian Can. market, 50-100 units at most? The outside machining wouldn't be that difficult for any regular shop. It appears that the top "stuff" rail guide, cocking piece "holder" etc. are welded onto the barrel after the barrel is finished. Can anybody comment further?
 
koldt said:
They are aluminium barrels, but I think the hard part would be the cutter for the rifling. And the cost to make a cutter would be big, especially for the intent of the civilian Can. market, 50-100 units at most? The outside machining wouldn't be that difficult for any regular shop. It appears that the top "stuff" rail guide, cocking piece "holder" etc. are welded onto the barrel after the barrel is finished. Can anybody comment further?
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There must be some innovative way to make the rifling! :twisted:
 
koldt said:
They are aluminum barrels, but I think the hard part would be the cutter for the rifling. And the cost to make a cutter would be big, especially for the intent of the civilian Can. market, 50-100 units at most? The outside machining wouldn't be that difficult for any regular shop. It appears that the top "stuff" rail guide, cocking piece "holder" etc. are welded onto the barrel after the barrel is finished. Can anybody comment further?
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Has anybody asked Keanen over at Dlask if he could do the job?

And if that fails we could all ways get toysareforboys to set us up :roll: :lol:
 
Claven2 said:
Why can they not be legally imported with all the State Dept. paperwork, etc.?
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Grenade Launchers are deemed a weapon of war (and specifically named) by the ITAR's as a result ANY exports have to be end usered by LE/MIL - If you know of a LE dept will to import 50-100 for resale let me know :roll:
 
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