the 10,000 Joule muzzle energy limitation

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I'm really confused with Trudeau's recent OIC prohibiting any firearm that exceeds 10,000 Joules in muzzle energy. I want to build a .450 Rigby bolt action dangerous game rifle for an upcoming African safari. Normal ballistics of the .450 Rigby is a 500 grain bullet @ 2,350-2,450 fps at moderate pressure, however it has plenty of case capacity to equal the ballistics of the .460 Weatherby magnum. Is the .450 Rigby now prohibited in Canada?
 
quaticman said:
I'm really confused with Trudeau's recent OIC prohibiting any firearm that exceeds 10,000 Joules in muzzle energy. I want to build a .450 Rigby bolt action dangerous game rifle for an upcoming African safari. Normal ballistics of the .450 Rigby is a 500 grain bullet @ 2,350-2,450 fps at moderate pressure, however it has plenty of case capacity to equal the ballistics of the .460 Weatherby magnum. Is the .450 Rigby now prohibited in Canada?
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Liberty is now prohibited in this F'd up country. f:P:

As fer the .450 Rigby, just load the bugger to original specs and go huntin".
 
Possibly but then again who is to say?
The average "expert" will pick up on a 50 BMG dangerous looking black rifle.
A H&H or Boss and Co. double rifle in 450 Rigby looks just like their uncles quail gun. (at least to them!)
A Weatherby MKV looks just like their dad's deer rifle.
Gang banger's, hoods and terrorist's don't usually pick custom big bores to conduct business.
Maybe not to the letter of the law but I'd bet you're safe at least for now.
 
The only African cartridge I've seen specifically called out is the Weatherby. I've also seen FRTs for some ELR cartridges like the Cheytac stuff.

Op I'd say you're probably safe. Probably.
 
The law states CAPABLE of 10,000 joules. Firearms are proofed using proof cartridges which produce about 30% more muzzle energy. So a rifle where the standard cartridge produces 7700 joules would have a proof cartridge that produces 10,000 joules.

The other problem with capable is there is no defined outcome. Is a rifle that fires 1 round and explodes capable? Does the rifle have to be able to fire more than one round safely?
 
quaticman said:
I'm really confused with Trudeau's recent OIC prohibiting any firearm that exceeds 10,000 Joules in muzzle energy. I want to build a .450 Rigby bolt action dangerous game rifle for an upcoming African safari. Normal ballistics of the .450 Rigby is a 500 grain bullet @ 2,350-2,450 fps at moderate pressure, however it has plenty of case capacity to equal the ballistics of the .460 Weatherby magnum. Is the .450 Rigby now prohibited in Canada?
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Technically yes but canadas finest will leave you alone until they ban hunting rifles. But you will always have the risk that if they want to get you for something else, they can get you for this
 
Teac said:
Technically yes but canadas finest will leave you alone until they ban hunting rifles. But you will always have the risk that if they want to get you for something else, they can get you for this
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While you might be right if he stays in our country with his rifle, he states that he is going on an African Safari...What is CBSA going to do when he tries to "smuggle a prohibited devise" into our country under their very noses on returning.... Armycat has the proper answer to the question.
 
I bet CBSA staff have never heard of a proof load and will refer to the stated energy levels they find for a cartridge with a Google search.
 
Gatehouse said:
I bet CBSA staff have never heard of a proof load and will refer to the stated energy levels they find for a cartridge with a Google search.
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I am betting they won't even look at his checked luggage. If anything they would check the standard loads for whatever is stamped on the barrel.
 
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