The bayo is cool and all but should I keep it on this rifle?

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...I have no practical use for it. :confused:

I recently removed the bayo from my '50 Tula refurb since I put that rifle in a synthetic stock w/o a bayo cut.
It looks great when it's opened up on the rifle, except the barrel's end gets marred with scratches every time it attaches and gets taken off. :mad:

So, aside from a zombie apocalypse and maybe finishing off a fresh kill in the bush, the bayo is just for looks for most of us right? :stirthepot2:

This is the early stages of a new "build" I started. (with the black bayo)

I've since removed the bayo, and I'm thinking of attaching a 3.1 inch long pin on muzzle brake.
Now I'm wondering if I should put the bayo back on and simply have it open/extended and attached all the time when in use. Then just fold it down for storage(?) Only issue remaining would be the constant scratching of the barrel's tip/end...

 
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Actually, many people have indicated that the bayonet improves, or at least normalizes, barrel harmonics. It's part of why a lot of people say that SKS and Mosins and all the other red rifles can't hit anything. Those people remove the bayonet, which completely changes the harmonics, and then you get completely different accuracy.
 
Stevebot-7 said:
Actually, many people have indicated that the bayonet improves, or at least normalizes, barrel harmonics. It's part of why a lot of people say that SKS and Mosins and all the other red rifles can't hit anything. Those people remove the bayonet, which completely changes the harmonics, and then you get completely different accuracy.
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I don't see how, but I'm no Scientist! Not discounting the theory, just questioning it...

Anyone have some extended experience shooting both bayo'd and non-bayo'd SKS'?
 
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If you've been taking those "over 50yd shots" at deer, and run out of bullets after wounding it on the last round, it's handy to have for the "coup de grace".;)
 
Caleb314 said:
They can be used as monopods if your shooting prone
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trebor2880 said:
If you've been taking those "over 50yd shots" at deer, and run out of bullets after wounding it on the last round, it's handy to have for the "coup de grace".;)
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Good points guys (no pun intended!)
If it's not your choice hunting rifle, then use of the bayo is severely limited I think. I won't be using mine for any sizable game hunting. (coyote/deer/hog)
 
The bayonet doesn't normalize the barrel harmonics.
What happens is that the sights were set at the factory WITH the bayonet and without it the settings don't function because the bayo CHANGES the barrel harmonics.
A recalibration of the sights is all that need happen to fix the situation, but then you won't be able to hit #### WITH the bayonet on.
Your choice, always extended/on or always off. The Russian military decided to go with on/extended.
 
ciphery said:
The bayonet doesn't normalize the barrel harmonics.
What happens is that the sights were set at the factory WITH the bayonet and without it the settings don't function because the bayo CHANGES the barrel harmonics.
A recalibration of the sights is all that need happen to fix the situation, but then you won't be able to hit #### WITH the bayonet on.
Your choice, always extended/on or always off. The Russian military decided to go with on/extended.
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So having bayo on and extended will lend to more true sighting of the rifle?
 
EL34/6L6 said:
So having bayo on and extended will lend to more true sighting of the rifle?
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No, you just might have to adjust the sights differently with the Bayo off.

Just to be clear I don't think this is an issue with the SKS so much as the Mosin's. Mosins were sighted in originally with the Bayo extended, and I had to adjust my sights on my M44 when I removed the Bayo. With my SKS there was no change at all.
 
"...bayo is just for looks..." Yep and lots of people are injured, sometimes seriously, by twits playing with bayonets on rifles. Having a pointy thing on a carbine all the time is unsafe. Having the scabbard on looks daft.
"...for the "coup de grace"..." The deer you wounded by your negligence would kick you into next week.
"...for marshmallows and..." Pretty much what bayonets were used for. Opening cans, slicing bacon, etc. If you're in a situation where you need to fight with one, you've made some very serious tactical errors.
 
That's a good-looking gun ;) I think the cut-out is important if keeping the bayonet, (I'm not advising you make one 'cause I don't want to suggest anything that may compromise your stock) to recess the point while retracted for it to be safe. Mine has a lot of mystery droop so it retracts and I haven't made any cut-out, be it at my own discretion. I personally like the bayonets but I think in this case you may be best choosing to fire with it out or off, unless you decide that you can make it work some other way somehow. Looks good either way though to me.

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Pcmx said:
That's a good-looking gun ;) I think the cut-out is important if keeping the bayonet, (I'm not advising you make one 'cause I don't want to suggest anything that may compromise your stock) to recess the point while retracted for it to be safe. Mine has a lot of mystery droop so it retracts and I haven't made any cut-out, be it at my own discretion. I personally like the bayonets but I think in this case you may be best choosing to fire with it out or off, unless you decide that you can make it work some other way somehow. Looks good either way though to me.
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Yeah man, and you know that your rifle made me want a Monte in the first place.:rockOn:
Love my T6, but the Monte is like middle ground between stock form and the T6. It's a great looking and feeling stock when shouldered. The opposite side of the rifle showing the molded check rest looks real nice too.

I've ordered a long muzzle brake and new hand guard/gas system. The original gas pin is welded closed and too much work to get out. So I'll keep it and put it away with the other parts.
The rifle is a '50 Tula refurb all matching. So I'm keeping all the parts and not doing irreversible mods. I got the rifle to be a shooter mainly because of the spring firing pin. So I'm looking at hopefully getting high usage out of it with the new stock and some small additions.
 
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I wish I would have done that. I ended up doing some fine drilling on that weld after deciding at being past the point of no return, not really knowing what was holding it and assuming there was some kind of weld after marring it up; then made a replacement pin with a peened end that fits just loose enough for it to be removed to swap between wood and plastic hand guards. I really like my Tula refurb too, in its originality and with the same idea in higher use configuration. I won't be so concerned with precipitation with the syn. stock except water does like to find its way in around the bayonet handle, mostly to me, which is a little harder to get out compared to the rest of the rifle, it seems. Maybe another reason to keep it off. I oil mine excessively, but I'll still notice some orange colours around there after some light rain or snow.
 
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