The Bayonet And Contemporary Rifles
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The IWI X95's armorer's manual has an illustration of a mauser-style bayonet that affixes to a bayonet lug on a special A2 Flash hider. The photo above is the only real example I've seen, but they do exist. It'd be an easy upgrade for existing rifles, but I also don't imagine they'd be cheap. I'd buy one!
The IWI X95's armorer's manual has an illustration of a mauser-style bayonet that affixes to a bayonet lug on a special A2 Flash hider. The photo above is the only real example I've seen, but they do exist. It'd be an easy upgrade for existing rifles, but I also don't imagine they'd be cheap. I'd buy one!
Interesting, and I can't say that I wouldn't buy one either, but this is quite useless on a tavor or any bullpup. The whole idea is to turn the rifle into a spear, but if the rifle isn't 26" long it doesn't make for much of a spear.
I don't think the brits got that memo during their multiple bayonet assaults in the GWOT
Link? I wasn't aware and am now leaning on you for an education, not being snotty.
Not useless at all on a bullpup. As mentioned, the Brits conducted several bayonet charges during the GWOT in both Afghanistan and Iraq. We used to mount bayonets on our C1 (Sterling-ish) Submachineguns in the Canadian Army, as did the Brits and other Commonwealth nations. Very handy for coralling and escorting Prisoners of War, not to mention during urban interior combat when your magazine runs dry at an inopportune moment...
E.T.A. The modern Infanteer has multiple purposes for the bayonet, which these days takes on the form of a field or "combat" knife, suitable for light chopping tasks as well as cutting, minefield prodding, opening ammo crates and ration boxes, and of course, for scaring the bejeezus out of the enemy! Then there is the entire psychology of the bayonet, which is a very useful training tool in time of war. The spirit of the bayonet as taught to Infantry, is to kill. Period. By repeatedly sticking what amounts to a weighted spear right into your enemy's guts. You kill him squirming like a bug on a pin. Pretty gruesome when you stop to think about it. But still, my guys fixed bayonets as part of our battle drills in Afghanistan, just like we'd been taught, just in case. In turn, we taught the Afghan National Army Kandak (Battalion) assigned to us exactly as we had been trained ourselves. The cycle repeats....
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You can look up the "Battle of Danny Boy" in Iraq, named for the checkpoint where the action took place. A British corporal in Helmand province Afghanistan also defeated an Taliban ambush after telling the handful of troops with him to fix bayonets and charged about 80 meters across open ground.
A bayonet on an L85 is awkward but they obviously make it work.
Look what I found. ITAR? ht tps://store.springfield-armory.com/m1a-flash-suppressor-w-bayonet-lug/
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Look what I found. ITAR? ht tps://store.springfield-armory.com/m1a-flash-suppressor-w-bayonet-lug/
That's the standard M1a/M14 flash hider. It requires a separate nut where that big slot is to screw onto the muzzle. As a 7.62 muzzle device, it uses different threading from what you'd find on 5.56 barrels like the X95. Makes me wonder if it'd work on a Tavor 7 though.
I can't find one for an M4/ x95, 5.56 barrel...I assume that placing that weight at the end of the muzzle makes for poor accuracy?
I bow to your experience Mark. Indeed a sharp pokey thing on the end of the rifle, regardless of its length, is beneficial.
As far as I can tell it's a unique IWI item. Affixing any bayonet to a barrel will affect accuracy. My experience with the AR15 back when I had one was my group size would triple.
But if you've got a bayonet mounted, you're probably not firing accurate long range shots anyways.
Anyways, look at how rifles are actually being used.
1) suppressing fire at longer ranges
2) mag dumps into trenches
We get so wound up about accuracy and tight groups, but what percentage of the time are military rifles being fired in such a way where tight groups would actually matter?
What really matters is, an effective bullet hose that just keeps working, no matter what...
It really bugs me that most of the Springfield M1A's come WITH the flash hider, but WITHOUT the bayonet lug... I assume to comply with some commie "assault weapons law" or some such crap... you spend all that money to get the M1A, and... it's missing something...
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I think it's a holdover from the retarded AWB ban (that expired in '04?) stateside.
The massacre of 44 Philippine Police Special Force members at Mamasapano in 2015 occured after they ran out of ammunition trying to hold off a superior sized force in a poor defensive position, encircled in a cornfield with little substantial cover.
It is possible to run out of ammunition in a modern battle so bayonets, no matter how limited their use may be, do have a place in the kit of any man fighting other men.
htt ps://apps.dtic.mil/sti/citations/AD1030109
ht tps://apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/AD1030109.pdf
It is possible to run out of ammunition in a modern battle so bayonets, no matter how limited their use may be, do have a place in the kit of any man fighting other men.
htt ps://apps.dtic.mil/sti/citations/AD1030109
ht tps://apps.dtic.mil/sti/pdfs/AD1030109.pdf
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Don't forget cutting barbed wire when pared with it's scabbard
