The CZ97B: Initial thoughts and observations **Update: Range report added on post 13*

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I was looking for a .45ACP pistol to fill a gap in my collection and saw this CZ97B on the EE a couple of weeks ago. I’ve owned three CZ75 9mm pistols in the past (an original ’75 in the mid 1980s, and an SP01 and Shadow more recently) and did like them a lot, so I thought I’d give their larger cousin a try. I originally thought it as just a larger version of the CZ75, but there are a few unexpected differences. I most likely won’t get any range time this weekend so I thought I’d give it a quick overview and let you my initial thoughts on if after my first couple of days.

The pistol has a full-length frame similar to the SP01 Shadow variants, although without a rail. The sides of the slide have a double taper towards the top and there are front grasping grooves as well. The slide and frame look to have have the same polycoat that the Shadows and SP01 have.

The sights are fixed three-dot sights. What’s neat is that the rear dots are quite small:
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while the front dot is larger:
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The dots look to be close to the same size when viewed together:
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I don’t know if the greenish tint on the front sight is factory or from a previous owner—it does make it stand out. I may black out the rear sights—generally I don’t prefer three-dot sights that much.

The rails are on the inside of the frame, like all CZ75s.
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One big difference between the 97B and the 75 versions is that while the barrel in the 9mm pistols have locking lugs machined into top of the barrel in front of the chamber, whereas the 97B has a large square-edged chamber area that locks into the slide's ejection port like most modern semi-autos. The 75s have an enclosed unlocking groove under the chamber while the 97B’s is open on the bottom
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The feed ramp is nice and smooth:
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One big difference, and one I was not previously aware of, is the presence of a screw-in barrel bushing in the slide.
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After the slide and frame are separated during field stripping and the recoil spring and plug removed the bushing can be unscrewed by hand.
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The pistol disassembles like other CZs…retract the slide back a bit to the witness marks, pop out the slide stop, then slide the slide off the front.
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The bushing and spring plug are the only different parts from the usual CZ.


The first thing that you notice when you hold the pistol is its size. It’s big, but the grip size is still manageable. The extended frame gives the pistol excellent balance in the hand with no tendency towards muzzle-heaviness, and even though the grip frame is big front-to-back, the traditional CZ-style grip shape is very comfortable—I’ve always liked how CZs feel in the hand.

I’ve owned a number of pistols renowned for their size—a Glock 21, a Beretta 92 and even an H&K Mk23. The grip on the 97B feels similar to those…maybe a little longer front to back. I’ve got small hands and did not find any of those hard to shoot. Trigger reach with the 97B on the other hand, is nearly unmanageable for me with the factory wood grips. I cannot reach the trigger in DA mode without shifting the gun around awkwardly, and SA mode is even a tough reach. It’s too bad—because I like the look and feel of the smooth wood grips.
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Mine came with aluminum grips with a “CZC” logo on them…not sure who makes them. They make a significant difference in feel.
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The biggest difference is at the top rear of the grip—the aluminum ones have a gap to reduce trigger reach. With these grips I can reach the trigger in DA mode with just a little stretch, and SA mode is no problem at all. It’s still long for me, but reachable with a normal grip. I’ve heard that aluminum grips make the 97B feel like a 1911 but I don’t agree.

The DA pull is not bad—not too heavy with some stacking towards the end. The SA pull is a little long with a bit of creep. I’m guessing it’s 5 pounds or so. The reset is a little long, then there’s a short distance (I’m guessing where the firing pin safety is activated) before the final sear resistance is reached. I don’t have one to compare but it sort of reminds me of a P226 trigger pull (with the non SRT trigger)…maybe a bit better.

I was initially dubious that the pistol would work for me but I think the aluminum grips will make it feasible. I’ll update once I’ve had a chance to shoot it.
 
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Yep....sweet pistol for sure....full length dust cover and no rail is pretty....must keep an eye open for this one..
 
every time I see a 97, i wish they made a SP01 without the rail.

Yep....sweet pistol for sure....full length dust cover and no rail is pretty....must keep an eye open for this one..

I have to agree about the full length dust cover. Best looking CZ IMO.
May have to keep my eyes open for one as the Les Baer Monolith is a bit pricey for me….and I need another .45 semi.
 
I have to agree about the full length dust cover. Best looking CZ IMO.
May have to keep my eyes open for one as the Les Baer Monolith is a bit pricey for me….and I need another .45 semi.

I like a clean full length dust cover too.

Had one of these for a while. Very nice shooter. Interestingly, the gent who bought it ended up selling his Les Baer PII (1.5") because he said he was shooting the Rangemaster just as well as the Baer.

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I have to agree about the full length dust cover. Best looking CZ IMO.
May have to keep my eyes open for one as the Les Baer Monolith is a bit pricey for me….and I need another .45 semi.

I know you do, and I hear SIG makes excellent .45 semi guns. :)
 
At the Range

I had a chance to take it out for the first tome today at the Nova Scotia Rifle Association's range near Halifax. Weather was your typical cold, windy Autumn day, with temperatures around 7°C and a cold North wind. I loaded up five rounds just to see how it felt—here's the result (the target was at 15m).

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I'm always pleased when a gun shoots well on the first try—it was very encouraging. The pistol's weight and full-length frame made for very comfortable shooting with little muzzle flip.

Here's the pistol in action (The range was busy today so I was limited in my camera angles)

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I was impressed more than I thought I'd be. It proved pleasingly accurate, too—Since the range was so busy I didn't measure groups or take a bunch of pictures but they were similar to the one pictured above.

I was curious how it would compare to my other .45s—A Gen 4 Glock 21 and an HK45. Here they are back-to back:

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The HK45 had the most flip—not an objectionable amount, though. The Glock was more stable, but did exhibit the snappy recoil that I've always felt Glocks exhibit. For lightweight pistols both the HK45 and Glock do a good job in managing recoil. As expected, the CZ97 was mildest of all. Ammunition for all shooting was factory 230 grain FMJ...UMC and American Eagle.

I shot some more then finished off with nine rounds at a quick pace:
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Easily controllable and fun to shoot! It goes almost without saying that there were no issues with any of the pistols today.

Final Observations
I'll be honest—when I first unpacked the pistol (with its factory wood grips on) a few weeks ago and felt how big it was and how unmanageable the trigger reach was I very nearly re-listed it on the EE without shooting it. My wife convinced me to give it a try first—I was dubious that I'd like it. But, after swapping out for the aluminum grips I warmed up to it, although the sharpness of the edges of the grips and the longish reset and less-than-ideal trigger pull concerned me.

To my somewhat surprise I really like shooting this pistol—even on a cold windy day with bare hands the grips did not bother me at all; I didn't even really notice them. The trigger pull was fine, too, and accurate shooting was easy. It'd been some time since I fired an all-steel .45 pistol and I'd forgotten how I enjoy shooting them.

I feel the same way about this pistol as I do the H&K P7. I don't really like dry firing either at home—they feel a little weird in the hand, and neither of their triggers feel that great in dry firing. But all that changes at the firing line when they transform into these awesome shooting machines.

I like this pistol more than I initially expected to. I think it's going to be a keeper.
 
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An older thread worth reviving. Excellent review BTW. I have not shot my CZ97 for a couple of years now. I think you have kindled a desire to so tomorrows range time will include a box or two of CZ97 pleasure.

Take Care

Bob
 
I picked mine up at an auction in MB a few years back. I believe it was BNIB. I was the only bidder and quite happy when I was the winner.
Shoots like my other CZs, wonderfully.
 
I have a 97BD I prefer the de-cocker guns to safeties, I really like the size and weight of it and I ordered some Cajun Gun Works upgrades for it I didn't like the big hook trigger and they sell a whole kit so I figured why not when I get it installed and shoot it I was gonna make a similar post. For a 45 the CZ97 is by far the most shootable and controllable and the 10 round standard makes it perfect. Mine has the rubber grips on it and very comfortable in the hand
 
An older thread worth reviving. Excellent review BTW. I have not shot my CZ97 for a couple of years now. I think you have kindled a desire to so tomorrows range time will include a box or two of CZ97 pleasure.

Take Care

Bob

Same here...

Mine is a special order from CZ, it is in glossy blue from the factory and took 7 months to get through Wolverine.

I have to agree the grip is large, but not by much if compared to my Browning Hi Power.

The gun is very accurate, as a matter of fact I sold all my 1911s, the only other 45 I own is a S&W 625
 
I had a 97B. Nice handgun, but it simply didn't fit me. As a result, although the pistol was accurate enough, my practical accuracy was lousy unless I did far too much work compensating for the poor fit. I don't have particularly small hands, and must use "duty" sized handguns for my recreational shooting as my grip is too large for a "compact" grip length. So it wasn't the size of the 97B grip so much as it was the long Trigger reach and the curvature of the Trigger itself. Anyhow, I couldn't shoot the CZ 97B without far too much effort on my part, so I sold it and never looked back.

I have an STI 1911A1 that I like just fine, as well as an HK45 and an FN FNX 45 Tactical. But the best of the .45s for me is the relatively obscure SIG P227 with the "E2" Grip. The "shorter" reach of the E2 Grip gives the slightly larger-frame of the P227 an identical grip size and "feel" to that of the P226 with standard side-screw Grip Plates. It is actually uncanny how identical the two pistols feel in my hand. Eyes closed, I cannot tell the .45 from the 9mm. It goes "bang" every time and puts 'em where I want them. What's not to like?


My former CZ97B:

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My SIG P227:

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