The Italian SG Built for Modern Threats The Beretta 1301

If we weren't restricted with our mag tubes, I'd jump in on the 1301. S&J make some really nice builds with them, and they're so damn fast. I also really like the idea of being able to change the shell type literally on the fly without having to dump a live round on the floor. A match saver attachment just makes sense with the 1301.
 
Painkillers said:
If we weren't restricted with our mag tubes, I'd jump in on the 1301. S&J make some really nice builds with them, and they're so damn fast. I also really like the idea of being able to change the shell type literally on the fly without having to dump a live round on the floor. A match saver attachment just makes sense with the 1301.
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As someone who is interested in a 1301 Pro Comp but feels the same (being a 3" gun it is a little hampered on max capacity to be all it can be for competition) what do you mean when you say change shell type on the fly without dumping a round?
 
1ABNDT said:
Indeed, both S&J/Tactical Ordnance sell turn key customized 1301's to the community which is really sweet.


If we weren't restricted I would have a Genesis Arms SG as well.
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I *almost* pounced on a Tac Ord 1301, I was in contact with Casey and just by chance he had one with all the modding just finished. Seemed like a darned nice gun.

If it weren't for the mag capacity aspect I would have it in my safe right now. My 3.5" Tac Ord VM continues to serve me until I find something better.

Surely we lowly Canadians cant have any of those scary Genesis Arms shotguns?! I imagine they have been deemed too scary for us mere mortals to have?! If it saves only one life......:rolleyes:

Pretty sure the Genesis is what Taran Tactical reworks for his builds and I think I watched a Garand Thumb video where they ran a Genesis hard and it was EPIC.
 
Sniffer said:
As someone who is interested in a 1301 Pro Comp but feels the same (being a 3" gun it is a little hampered on max capacity to be all it can be for competition) what do you mean when you say change shell type on the fly without dumping a round?
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The 1301 Mk2 has the ability to, when manually pull the charging handle back, extracting and ejecting the shell in the chamber without one being released from the mag tube and on to the lifter. So, one could (should) place a special circumstance load in a match saver. The Garand Thumb vid is talking about drone defence when he talks about this function. The gun could be loaded with buck or slugs and a tungsten birdshot shell in the matchsaver...maybe even a 3" for further reach? Should a drone appear, simply pop in the shell for the drone.

Our applications, hunting. Let's say your deer hunting and a nice fat Quail pops out of the bush and lands on a branch 20 yards to your left. A quick shell swap has you eating Quail...try it with the buck shot, and well, suffice to say not much Quail left. Fumbling around in a dump pouch for a low brass round, the Quail is gone.

The 1301 must release the shell from the mag tube onto the lifter as the bolt comes forward (if there isn't a shell in front of the bolt that is)? A handy design.
 
Sniffer said:
I *almost* pounced on a Tac Ord 1301, I was in contact with Casey and just by chance he had one with all the modding just finished. Seemed like a darned nice gun.

If it weren't for the mag capacity aspect I would have it in my safe right now. My 3.5" Tac Ord VM continues to serve me until I find something better.

Surely we lowly Canadians cant have any of those scary Genesis Arms shotguns?! I imagine they have been deemed too scary for us mere mortals to have?! If it saves only one life......:rolleyes:

Pretty sure the Genesis is what Taran Tactical reworks for his builds and I think I watched a Garand Thumb video where they ran a Genesis hard and it was EPIC.
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Genesis Arms just came out with their new 3 gun model.

Yeah, so scary & dangerous.šŸ˜‚NoHandedShooteršŸ‘
 
Painkillers said:
The 1301 Mk2 has the ability to, when manually pull the charging handle back, extracting and ejecting the shell in the chamber without one being released from the mag tube and on to the lifter. So, one could (should) place a special circumstance load in a match saver. The Garand Thumb vid is talking about drone defence when he talks about this function. The gun could be loaded with buck or slugs and a tungsten birdshot shell in the matchsaver...maybe even a 3" for further reach? Should a drone appear, simply pop in the shell for the drone.

Our applications, hunting. Let's say your deer hunting and a nice fat Quail pops out of the bush and lands on a branch 20 yards to your left. A quick shell swap has you eating Quail...try it with the buck shot, and well, suffice to say not much Quail left. Fumbling around in a dump pouch for a low brass round, the Quail is gone.

The 1301 must release the shell from the mag tube onto the lifter as the bolt comes forward (if there isn't a shell in front of the bolt that is)? A handy design.
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Also possible with the Benelli M4, which I suspect did it first.
 
GimpyGolden said:
With an extension (6+1+1_ 2 3/4")1301 Tac in Canada holds one less shell than in US, I don't see how this is a deal breaker for some.
You are really missing out.
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It is a deal breaker when the max limit for competition is 9 rounds and 3.5" guns can legally hold 9 off the start (like my VM).

I did a stage recently where the round count was 10, for me that was 9 in the gun plus the Matchsaver (quick / easy). For 3" guns that meant a reload to stuff two rounds in the gun.

3.5" guns also make more sense if quad loading. If the gun is empty and has an Autoloader kit it loads one round from the first quad and can still take all 4 rounds from another quad. it just works better on every level.
 
Painkillers said:
The 1301 Mk2 has the ability to, when manually pull the charging handle back, extracting and ejecting the shell in the chamber without one being released from the mag tube and on to the lifter. So, one could (should) place a special circumstance load in a match saver. The Garand Thumb vid is talking about drone defence when he talks about this function. The gun could be loaded with buck or slugs and a tungsten birdshot shell in the matchsaver...maybe even a 3" for further reach? Should a drone appear, simply pop in the shell for the drone.

Our applications, hunting. Let's say your deer hunting and a nice fat Quail pops out of the bush and lands on a branch 20 yards to your left. A quick shell swap has you eating Quail...try it with the buck shot, and well, suffice to say not much Quail left. Fumbling around in a dump pouch for a low brass round, the Quail is gone.

The 1301 must release the shell from the mag tube onto the lifter as the bolt comes forward (if there isn't a shell in front of the bolt that is)? A handy design.
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While on the topic, what is the consensus for anti-drone loads?
I have not done any research, but to be clear, we would be talking about ukraine/russia style FPV suicide drones.
The higher up drones, that drop a payload would be significantly harder to defend against.
I am assuming you would want #4 buck or similar and engauge when its 100yd, and hopefully you have 1 or (maybe) 2 shots if u miss the first?
 
Junction said:
While on the topic, what is the consensus for anti-drone loads?
I have not done any research, but to be clear, we would be talking about ukraine/russia style FPV suicide drones.
The higher up drones, that drop a payload would be significantly harder to defend against.
I am assuming you would want #4 buck or similar and engauge when its 100yd, and hopefully you have 1 or (maybe) 2 shots if u miss the first?
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