The little shottie that could

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So to make things short, I bought a cheap SXS Shottie from Tradex last year and sawed off the barrel down to 18.5in and used it as my truck gun.

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A few days ago I thought I'd let out the Bubba in me and this is what I did: I decided to cut down the stock and make a "Pistol grip" and I ended up with a final lenght of 26 3/4in, I screwed the old sling swivel in the pistol grip and I attached a "rat tail" made with black Para Cord, I added more Para Cord on the Barrel and I finished it with a two tone paint job.

Not too bad for a 90$ Shotgun! It'll follow me pretty much everywhere I go from now on


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So what does the CFC think about this nice little job? I thought shorting down a firearm was against the law. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
 
Barrel length must be 18in since its a break action and the overall length must be 26in...

My barrel is 18.5in to be on the safe side and the overall length is 26 3/4in
 
Barrel length must be 18in since its a break action and the overall length must be 26in...

My barrel is 18.5in to be on the safe side and the overall length is 26 3/4in

Yup. You are safe.

Cool job by the way, fun little truck gun. Just watch the webbing between your thumb and trigger finger do not get hit during recoil by the unlocking lever.
 
haha yeah that hurts a little.. but the bleeding is annoying. It lasts longer than the hurting part. A 16 gauge bit me like that last summer, slugs though. :)

That's why I just bought a Remington 812 with the release in front of the trigger.
 
Ok...I've seen enough of these postings to know that I NEED a chopped down gun like this one. The problem is though, I have 2 410's...one is too nice to chop, the other is too old and I can't get myself to take my hacksaw to it. I have a Cooey model 840 16 guage that I'd be willing to chop, but does anyone out there have any insight about my chances of bleeding when I fire it? I want the pistol grip, but that tang looks oh so close to the meat between my thumb and index finger. The cgn'ers on here that chop down a 12 guage to a pistol grip are a lot braver than I am.
 
Ok...I've seen enough of these postings to know that I NEED a chopped down gun like this one. The problem is though, I have 2 410's...one is too nice to chop, the other is too old and I can't get myself to take my hacksaw to it. I have a Cooey model 840 16 guage that I'd be willing to chop, but does anyone out there have any insight about my chances of bleeding when I fire it? I want the pistol grip, but that tang looks oh so close to the meat between my thumb and index finger. The cgn'ers on here that chop down a 12 guage to a pistol grip are a lot braver than I am.

When it comes to chopping back older shotguns, beware. Few seem to realise that most of the shotguns on Tradex, and lots of older shotguns in general, are chambered in 2 1/2 inch. These guns should not be fired with 2 3/4" shells. The increased pressures generated when the shell crimp has nowhere to properly open into is the cause of the more noticeable felt recoil. Add to that the reduced weight available to absorb this additional recoil, and you're creating a real knucklebuster in every sense.

But this is trivial compared to the real danger. Many, if not most, 2 1/2" chambered shotguns were never proofed for nitro (modern smokeless) gunpower. The pressures generated by these powders, compared to the pressures generated by the black powder charges that the guns were built for, are in the neighborhood of 2 times as high. On top of that, old guns sometimes harbour weaknesses due to damage and corrosion. Just to be certain you're being foolish, throw in the wrong length of shells as mentioned above, to jack up the pressures even more. Sound like a candidate for a Darwin award? You betcha!!

Are low pressure, 2 1/2" shells still available? Yes, but you won't find them at your neighborhood hardware store, or at most gunshops, for that matter. 2 1/2" black powder shells are REALLY tough to find these days. Reloading is a good option, but you'd better know what you're doing. Use of black powder requires more prompt, better cleaning, too.

This isn't quite the same as tinkering with your Grampa's old Chevy and posting pics on the 'net so everyone can see how clever you are. Get your facts straight before you start playing with fire(arms)!!

Having said that, there are suitable, older guns to use as a platform for such projects. Know which they are before you start, or I'll be seeing you in hell!!

(ETA: Not picking on you, perryb, you seem to know better.)
 
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Ok...I've seen enough of these postings to know that I NEED a chopped down gun like this one. The problem is though, I have 2 410's...one is too nice to chop, the other is too old and I can't get myself to take my hacksaw to it. I have a Cooey model 840 16 guage that I'd be willing to chop, but does anyone out there have any insight about my chances of bleeding when I fire it? I want the pistol grip, but that tang looks oh so close to the meat between my thumb and index finger. The cgn'ers on here that chop down a 12 guage to a pistol grip are a lot braver than I am.

The one posted in this tread has a thin fore end which doesn't help because the front hand will need to absorb a lot of recoil...a strap of some sort up front might help, but a longer and thicker fore end stock would be better.

When I shoot a PGO shotgun I push forward with the front hand and pull back with the rear to create some tension and then absorb the recoil with both arms.

If I was shooting a PGO with a tang action release I would keep my thumb on the same side as my trigger finger ... I usually do this anyways with most of my guns as I find it comfortable and it keeps my thumb away from my long nose!:D
 
I like what you did with it, you should consider putting a strap on the fore-stock á la the MAC-10/11. Could probably help with the felt recoil on your shooting hand.
 
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IMHO you should have stopped there.
i actually think that old worn bluing and beaten up guns look nice, also more functional with a full stock.

should've could've would've... like I said I was trying out stuff and I think the most important thing is what I think and I think it's pretty neat... It was just too big for what I intended to do with it, it's basically going to be a little shottie that's going to follow me everywhere I might need it... I'd rather carry my glock around but the gods over in Ottawa think differently....
 
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