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Hey all. Just back from the range with my Winchester Model 70, in 22-250. Used a 3 legged rest and a rear bag. Last time out, I used a bipod and rear bag.

I haven't had a real good go of my groups. Some holes touch, some don't.

So......

What accessories do you guys use?

And pointers for shooting; breathing, trigger control, etc.

Help......
 
Are you sure its your rest? And not your targets? What type are you using? Some are more conducive to tight groups than others. Many people find that a square is a more consistent aiming point than a circle or a cross (I assume your rifle is scoped). Also, where you put your crosshairs is crucial. Are you trying for a bullseye? Or are you trying to get the thing to group somewhere on the paper, and, once you have, making scope adjustments then? If the latter, try placing your crosshairs on one corner of the square.

As for breathing, do the breathing, letting out a breath part way, etc. Try it while you're on the bench before firing a shot. You will find the movement of the scope interesting...

Just my two cents worth...
 
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Scoped rifle. Factory ammo.

Seems like the more I shoot at one session, the worse the groups get. I don't spend ax ecessive amount of time at it. As for the targets, I aim mostly for the center. Unless the center is too torn up. The last target I shot at had heads of game animals on it, in each corner. Aimed a few shots at them.

I know I can get some really good shots together, but not really consistantly. I believe it is more me than the ammo.

I am using the Winchester white box stuff. 45 gr jhp. For 22-250. Sout 800 was at the range and said his 22-250 shoots well with the Winchester grey box stuff. ITs 55 grs. I do have some other types of factory ammo to try. Case of some Federal stuff and some Remington UMC.
 
Start handloading and tune the load to your rifle.
Was your rifle snug in the front rest? Most F class shooters have a front rest that hold the rifle so it recoils back, not up.
Trigger control and follow through are very important. The shot should go off without really thinking about pulling the trigger. Of course a 7 lbs trigger with a bunch of creep won't help things either.
 
If you are experiencing muzzle flip try pushing your rifle further over the rest (hang more rifle over the other side) this should improve the balance point of the rifle. Like Maynard said the rifle should recoil back more then up.

If you know your hold is consistent and you are getting horizontal strings then it is most likely wind related. Try shooting early or late in the day when the winds are less prevalent.
IF your getting vertical dispersion then it could be your ammo (most likely) or the barrel is too hot (shooting too fast).

what power scope are you using? lower power scopes can not shoot small groups as well as their higher powered brothers.
 
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2 lbs trigger is plenty light enough. In Target Rifle Competition the limit is no less then 3.5 lbs. Put the money from an aftermarket trigger into a reloading set up. Even the least expensive (cheap) presses and dies and a inexpensive scale will allow you to make ammo better then you can shoot. It does not take big bucks to make good ammo, just attention to detail.
 
You're limited by the ammo IMHO. The Winchester white box is ok, but not meant for precision shooting. You can probably cut your group size in half by handloading. Your rifle should be also be checked for bedding and free floating of the barrel. If all that is ok, I would bet you'd get less than MOA 5-shot groups without a problem :dancingbanana:
 
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