The Remington Autoloading Shotgun / Model 11

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Good day all,

Wondering if there was anyone on here that owns or has owned an early Remington Autoloading shotgun or the model 11 as they later came to be known.

If so what are your thoughts on them? How do they run with modern low velocity ammo? Are they reliable? Share your thoughts and experiences with them..

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Owned several all in 16 bore. They work as well as the famous Browning Auto 5 they are a Remington produced version of. There are two models the Model 11 and the Sportsman. All of mine worked well. The main area to watch for issues is the fibre buffer in the rear of the receiver. They fall apart with age. With the buffer broken or missing and the firing of a "heavy" load could damage the gun when the bolt impacts the receiver rear. I prefer the later model with the safety behind the trigger. You can adjust the recoil system setting so they should cycle a wide range of loads. My 16 bores ran well on the heavy setting with 1 oz. loads and up. Never tried anything lighter.

Darryl
 
I ca tell you that the A5 was what caused the riff between Winchester and Browning because up until that point Mr. Browning had sold Winchester his patents outright.With the A5 he wanted a royalty agreement and Winchester said "NOPE"!
Sooo, he went to FN, Remington, and a few others and they were happy to comply.
Mistake- HUGE mistake!!
Cat
 
I got my 16 bore Sportsman in 2012 (I think) and it's been my main upland gun every since with some light duty waterfowling thrown in for good measure.

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(Metal grip cap, red pad and Poly choke were all added by me)

While I feel it's not as "refined" as an Auto-5 (one piece carrier/no "speed load"), I've found mine to be every bit as reliable with everything from 7/8oz to 1 1/4oz loads. I'd originally wanted a Browning Sweet Sixteen and got the Sportsman as a stop gap measure, but after hunting it a season, I found no real reason to invest more money into a Browning.

People either seem to find the point great or they're looking into the back of the receiver, luckily, I seem to do my best shooting (still poor at best) with either an 11 or Auto-5.

I missed out on a solid rib 11 with a Cutts last spring and I'm still kicking myself over not grabbing it...

Cory
 
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Thanks for the replies

I ended up taking a model 11 out last Saturday, it's a very early model - 1906 or so. Ran some low velocity (1180 fps) 1oz, 7.5 shot through it. Wouldn't cycle at all on the heavy setting so I set it up with ring and bushing to the back and it cycled fine.

Only issue was the last round wouldn't chamber, jammed every time. The mag tube spring feels very weak and I'm thinking this is the issue. Anyone else have this problem before? Where does one find replacement mag tube springs for the model 11?
 
I don't have a chamber gauge, could I use a 3" shell as a hillbilly solution? Mine is 12 gauge but it's an A5 not a model 11.
Sorry for the slight thread derailment.
 
I have a model 11 grade 4 skeet I believe ,it's miles ahead of any A-5 i've come across,its a beautiful old semi and actually the only "modern" gun I own,the safety in the guard is something to get used to ...it will likely never leave the collection ,the fiber bushing warning is valid as it was the only issue I found when I stripped the gun and quick fix with a replacement from numrich
 
I finally turned my model 11 over to my gun smith after it started to slam fire.it was one of my favorite turkey shot gun and it would put a pattern on board that would win almost every time.it just got to be to unsafe. As it would fire every time it closed.
 
ALL Remington Model 11 12 bore guns were 2 3/4" chambered. There were no short chambered 12 gauge models 11 ie: 2 1/2" etc. NONE were chambered in 3" Magnum. I know you wanted to use the 3" cartridge as a gauge only.

Darryl
 
I should really strip this one down to check the fiber bushing.

Numrich is out of magazine springs. Anyone know where else to find them?

Brownells

While there it's not a bad idea to pick up a new action and recoil spring. Friction piece if yours is worn.

Be mindful that there are different springs for magnum and non magnum guns. Just have to read the descriptions
 
Thanks, I'll check them out.

My recoil spring and friction ring seem to be in good shape. The friction ring itself is rather hard to slide on/off over the threads on the end of the tube. I assume that's better than it being loose/sloppy
 
I would think just about any appropriately length of magazine spring would work. Measure yours and buy a slightly longer spring from Remington Mossberg or whatever. I bet it will work fine in your gun. Your other springs will be fine also. A company in the States makes a killing selling "spring kits" to Browning Auto 5 owners who don't need them. Your mag tube should be lightly dressed with fine steel wool parallel to the tube and lightly lubed with 30 weight oil. If you remove the barrel and shine a light into the open end of the receiver you can get a look at the recoil buffer. If it is one piece it is good to go. If it needs replacement forget using the rivet set up. Use a good two part epoxy and glue it in. That's how I have fixed a few with no issues. This idea is not mine it came from a Brownells Gunsmith Kinks volume. Your return spring in the butt stock should be pulled out and thoroughly cleaned and lightly lubed. Other than that shoot the heck out of it.
Darryl
 
Thanks for the insightful information madtrapper.

So I've decided to disassemble the model 11 to check it out and give it a good cleaning. There is no fiber bushing or recoil buffer at all just bare metal.. The bolt itself is in good shape no cracks or anything. Maybe the early ones never had a fiber bushing?? :confused:
 
Is there evidence of a rivet being attached to the upper centre receiver rear on the inside. There could be a lot dirt packed in there. There will be a hollow stem that the rivet pounds into through the buffer. They all had the buffer.

Darryl
 
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