The Shotgun Stock Fit Thread

bluelynx said:
Mister Arietta:

Was the methodology and tooling used for your fittings different between the UK and Italy?

Thank you.
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Very similar with minor differences. Both used try guns that could be adjusted and patterned on a plate. Biggest difference was the UK board was 16 yards away and the Italian was further as I recall.
 
Have a good article in my library called.

Seven Guns From Seven Makers

The question was asked what top three attributes do you look for in a sporting clays gun

Bradd kidd Jr
Richard Faulds
Wendell cherry
Derrick Mein
Matt Fisher
Will Fennell
Anthony Matarese

Not one of them said fit as the first choice when picking a shotgun.
 
JIMMY 808 said:
Have a good article in my library called.

Seven Guns From Seven Makers

The question was asked what top three attributes do you look for in a sporting clays gun

Bradd kidd Jr
Richard Faulds
Wendell cherry
Derrick Mein
Matt Fisher
Will Fennell
Anthony Matarese

Not one of them said fit as the first choice when picking a shotgun.
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Maybe they should subscribe to the cgn forum, fit is always the first answer to inquires here!
 
Falconflyer said:
Maybe they should subscribe to the cgn forum, fit is always the first answer to inquires here!
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It’s the experts go to advice that and a used B gun, plus the once upon a time 1100 and 870 stories.

Don’t forget to take that front bead off either.
 
Rob! said:
So, do you measure drop at comb at the front or rear of the comb, or at the cheek contact point?
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Comb front, heel back no measurement for contact point of the cheek but generally a straight line between the two would keep it consistent.

Edit; I guess LOP would be a factor in that equation as well as they appear to measure at the very end on each. A 15 3/4 inch gun would have a different angle of the comb than a 13 3/4 inch gun with the same drop at comb and heel.
 
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JIMMY 808 said:
Have a good article in my library called.

Seven Guns From Seven Makers

The question was asked what top three attributes do you look for in a sporting clays gun

Bradd kidd Jr
Richard Faulds
Wendell cherry
Derrick Mein
Matt Fisher
Will Fennell
Anthony Matarese

Not one of them said fit as the first choice when picking a shotgun.
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I haven't seen that article, but I would pretty much guarantee that proper fit is so fundamentally important, those pro's just assume that was a given before listing other attributes. If they made any reference to saying proper fit isn't as important as some other feature or attribute in a gun, I'd be shocked.
 
The Baron said:
I haven't seen that article, but I would pretty much guarantee that proper fit is so fundamentally important, those pro's just assume that was a given before listing other attributes. If they made any reference to saying proper fit isn't as important as some other feature or attribute in a gun, I'd be shocked.
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Not one said fit as the first choice when picking a shotgun.

One fella said trigger.
 
MK2750 said:
Comb front, heel back no measurement for contact point of the cheek but generally a straight line between the two would keep it consistent.

Edit; I guess LOP would be a factor in that equation as well as they appear to measure at the very end on each. A 15 3/4 inch gun would have a different angle of the comb than a 13 3/4 inch gun with the same drop at comb and heel.
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...as would a parallel vs sloping comb. One would think the cheek contact would be the useful metric - but probably hard to measure.
 
Rob! said:
...as would a parallel vs sloping comb. One would think the cheek contact would be the useful metric - but probably hard to measure.
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I will never figure it out. One day I stumbled upon a used CG Magnus 12. It was seriously neglected and a way too much money but I did make an offer. I spent a half hour so so measuring that gun and for all intents and purposes it should not have come even close to fitting me, but it did. It fit me so well in fact that I became quite smitten by it. I offered $500 more than I thought it was worth but still less than what was acceptable.
 
Rob! said:
...as would a parallel vs sloping comb. One would think the cheek contact would be the useful metric - but probably hard to measure.
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The British have a measurement they call "drop at face" where your cheek contacts the comb. It's only useful for the stock fitter because everybody would have a slightly different way of cheeking the stock. Measurements normally taken in the shop with a try-gun.

A parallel comb would only work if the barrel were in line with the stock, i.e. AR -15 style. Your eye is the backsight on a shotgun, and you need a certain degree of bend to get your eye in the proper position on a gun built on traditional lines.
 
9.3mauser said:
The British have a measurement they call "drop at face" where your cheek contacts the comb. It's only useful for the stock fitter because everybody would have a slightly different way of cheeking the stock. Measurements normally taken in the shop with a try-gun.

A parallel comb would only work if the barrel were in line with the stock, i.e. AR -15 style. Your eye is the backsight on a shotgun, and you need a certain degree of bend to get your eye in the proper position on a gun built on traditional lines.
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Actually , parallel combs can work very well, and some people do prefer the over a tapered comb, for some applications.
 
JIMMY 808 said:
Not one said fit as the first choice when picking a shotgun.

One fella said trigger.
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Like I said... they probably just assume fit is a given. It would be like asking a mountain sheep hunter what attributes to look for in a good boot - nobody is going to bother to mention it needs to be the right size.

That said, I'm speaking without actually seeing the article so maybe I'm wrong. If anyone is able to link or share it somehow I'd appreciate it.
 
The Baron said:
Like I said... they probably just assume fit is a given. It would be like asking a mountain sheep hunter what attributes to look for in a good boot - nobody is going to bother to mention it needs to be the right size.

That said, I'm speaking without actually seeing the article so maybe I'm wrong. If anyone is able to link or share it somehow I'd appreciate it.
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Shooting sportsmen

Guns of the top target shooters.

https://shootingsportsman.com/seven-guns-from-seven-makers/
 
I think the quote by Matt Fisher pretty much indicates that custom fitting is a given to all of the top shooters.

Quote "No one ever believes that the stock dimensions provided by Blaser fit me to a “T.” Most competitors have custom dimensions—that wasn’t necessary for me."
 
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