The SIG P320 9mm: Initial thoughts and observations **Range report added on post 6**

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I must admit that I had not been following SIG’s polymer-framed releases in the last couple of years—the P250 didn’t really grab me and I had not even noticed the release of the P320. I was looking for a new 9mm, and, being an H&K guy, the H&K VP9 caught my eye, although I soon learned that its barrel length was a couple mm too short. However, in the course of reading about the VP9, the P320 was brought up a couple of times. I picked this one up off the EE this week—here are my initial thoughts.

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The grip angle is more vertical than the P226, but it still points naturally for me.

I’ve always liked the look of SIG’s P2xx series pistols, and I like how SIG has updated the look to keep the SIG look, but modernizing it—I like the new slide profile especially.

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I really like SIG’s grip texture—it’s very grippy without being too rough. I’ve found H&K’s new grip texture, like on the HK45, to be a little slippery, whereas the SIG’s texture “locks in” when it’s gripped tightly.

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Unlike the Glock or M&P, there is nothing on the trigger like a hinge or anything.

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My model has “Siglite” night sights, although there’s another version with regular sights. I like how they’re right at the end of the slide to maximize sight radius.

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Initial takedown is straightforward, revealing the usual parts (the guide rod is steel)

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However, the neat part is that if you rotate the takedown lever a full 180°, you can completely remove the fire control/frame rail sub frame from the polymer grip frame. This sub-frame is actually the serialized part of the gun. I had no idea until recently that this was a feature...I just wish we could take more advantage of it

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In the States, you can swap out both grip frames and barrel/slide assemblies, even changing calibres. In Canada, however, the only legal barrel length in the 4.7” full-size one, so swapping frame colours (I think) or calibres is probably the only option. Grip size too, I think?

So, instead of replaceable backstraps or side panels you’d swap the whole grip frame. Mine’s the medium size and it fits my small hands fine—it’s a bit smaller than the P226 grip in feel. It’s close to my M&P40, but a little shorter front-to back with less “humpiness” in the grip.

The bore axis is high for a striker-fired pistol. I prefer a low bore axis, although I’m OK with a higher one. Here’s how the P320 stacks up:

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H&K USP9 (l), P320 (r)

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P320 (l), P226 (r)

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Glock 31C (l), P320 (r)


The P320 is higher than the Glock by a fair bit, but lower than the DA USP9 and P226. I’ll have to see how this affects its shooting behaviour.

The trigger pull has a two-stage pull like most striker-fired pistols. The first stage is quite short, and fairly smooth. The second stage is heavier (I’ve heard 8 pounds), but fairly smooth. There’s a little trigger movement during the pull (i.e. it’s not the “breaking a glass rod” 1911 pull) but I like it. I reminds me of a little heavier, little shorter, little smoother M&P pull. I’ll see if I can find a trigger pull gauge. It has a positive, tactile and audible reset (a necessity for me) and the second-stage of the pull is right at the reset point. Thankfully, the trigger does not go all the way to the rear of the trigger guard.

Here’s what it looks (and sounds) like:


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Generally my first impressions are positive but there are a couple of things I don’t like. The slide stop is really small and tough to manipulate—it’s probably the worst-feeling I’ve ever seen on any centrefire handgun I’ve ever owned. I’ll have to see if this is an issue at the range. Weirdly, the trigger “resets” even when you’re dry-firing, or at least looks and sounds like it does. I don’t think there’s any way to tell if the pistol is cocked—the trigger looks the same, and the initial stage of the trigger pull feels the same uncocked vs. cocked. I’d prefer the “dead trigger” of the Glock, I think, or maybe some type of visual cocking indicator. Finally, the polymer frame seems susceptible to minor scuffs—I can’t tell if that’s due to its smooth finish making the scuffs more visible or due to its softness.

I’ve got the range booked for Saturday—I’ll report back then.
 
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Good review Master-G. I like the pics and the observations.

I've been reading about some crazy light 320 triggers that some of the custom shops in the U.S. are turning out.
 
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Sweet pistol op.....might have to add it to the loooooooong list...can definitely see another sig in my future...
 
I had a chance to try out the pistol today at NSRA's Bull Meadow Range in East Rawdon. Temperature was very pleasant, at around 20°C, and no blackflies yet! There were no malfunctions in the approximately 100 rounds of 124 grain Sellier and Bellot ammunition fired (does any new gun ever have malfunctions now?), and no surprises other than pleasant ones.

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I started the shooting at 7m, firing a match that I shot for years at my club's pistol matches. It's two groups of six rounds fired in twelve seconds. It's a good way to see how a pistol shoots fast and handles quick mag changes. I was apprehensive about the mag change since the slide release seemed hard to manipulate.

The first group wandered in elevation a little bit—I mist admit that night sights are not the easiest for me to quickly pick up.

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I tried a second set and concentrated more on the front sight with better results—here they both are

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I was pleased with the handling of the pistol, muzzle flip was not objectionable, and the concern I had about the "busy-ness" of the rear of the slide distracting me from the sights was unfounded. The mag changes, despite my unfamiliarity with the pistol, proved to be no problem at all.

Next I tried a few double-taps to test recoil recovery. Despite the high-ish bore axis I had no problems. I'm thinking that the extra weight of the steel guide rod helps mitigate flip some.

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It compared pretty well with my H&K PSP, which is my all time favourite for double-tap shooting, although the PSP has the edge.

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I tried a few rounds slower at 15m

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Here are the results, about a 3" group.

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Finally, to finish off, I tried ten rounds at 20m. The heavier trigger pull was a starting to be a factor...it seemed to take forever to break! I've always found 20m (and further) standing shooting a challenge with service-style semi-autos so I'm ok with the group.
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Conclusion
If anyone had told me a couple of months ago that a striker-fired polymer-framed SIG would end up being one of my favourite 9mm pistols I don't think I would've believed them. After dry firing the pistol at home for the past few days and live firing at the range today I can say with some surprise that it's the most comfortable and best feeling semi-auto grip I've ever tried—and I've tried a bunch! Reliability is, as expected, perfect, accuracy is good, too. The controls are more easily manipulated than I was expecting, too. I think if you wanted to compete with the pistol that regular contrast sights might be a better bet. Night sights are indeed cool, but I find them a little tough to quickly align. The high level of customizability that shooters in the States have would be nice, too. Overall, though, I'm very happy with the pistol.
 
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This is killing me. I put a deposit down 6 weeks ago and I have about another 6 weeks to wait for stock to arrive from the USA.
I think it will be worth the wait.


excellant review
 
I just installed a set of XS Big Dot sights on my P320 and what an improvement ! For me it was the only week point of this pistol , I found the Siglite night sights didn't jump out at me.
 
Master-G, curious why you ended up selling your P320 with the raving review you did. You sold me on it and its a keeper.
Strap yourself in--it's a convoluted ride! I still like do it a lot--and it's a bit of a long story as to why I'm selling it. Last year I picked an H&K USP 9mm that I enjoyed shooting but felt it was maybe too close in spirit to my H&K Mark 23 (I like having variety in my collection) so I sold the USP and bought the 320. Since then, I sold a Nighthawk 1911 (which was my only other .45) to buy a FAMAE SG542, and, while the Mk23 is a cool pistol, l I felt that it was not suited as a good all-round .45, so I sold it and bought an HK45.

Then, a couple of weeks ago I saw that the USP I'd sold last month was up for sale. To be honest, I kind of missed it and had a USP-shaped hole in my collection that needed filling. I've already got two other 9mm pistols and don't really need four so I thought I'd sell the P320 and reclaim the USP (I'm embarrassed to admit that it's the third gun that I've sold and bought back again). I'll be honest--I was kind of hoping that the P320 wouldn't sell and I could plausibly tell my wife that I'd listed it on the EE :) and keep both. But, I've spent a bunch of cash of guns in the last few months and need to minimize where I can. The way things go with my I'll probably end up with another one!
 
Awesome review Master-G. Seeing actual footage of you shooting it helps a guy like me want one even more. I had a Ruger P89 in 9mm a number of years ago and I sold it cause it was to chunky for my hands. I have the S&W M&P40 and love the striker fire of it and it shoots oh so nice. However, I never did replace the 9mm I once had and after reading your reviews on this SIG P320 im thinking I may have found that 9mm. Ive never owned a SIG but I may just be owning one soon ;) hahahaha
 
I've had my p320 out to the range a few times now. Absolutely love it. Over 1000rds and zero issues. I would almost go as far to say I like it more than my Sig 1911....Almost...
 
p226. basically you got what you pay for. it's not to say p320 is bad, but the trigger is just not the same as the SRT on p226. I shot both brand new and own p226 extreme.

Would you guys/gals rather have the P320 or the P226? Still deciding myself.
 
Ok just put a few mags of ammo thru a demo one of these. really liked it the only thing I found was with the slide locked to the rear and inserting a new mag quickly with some force the slide went forward chambering a round without racking the slide or touching the slide lock. This consistently happened with several different shooters. Anybody else have this happen?
 
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