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Suppose you had a Ruger PC4G in 40S&W. 16" is restricted. A gunshop told me a couple of people had one rebarelled to 19 or 20" to be non-restricted. You could do this with a rebarrel in 357 Sig? Then you'd have a sturdy unrestricted black rifle, cheaper ammo, without old corrosive stuff, and 10 round mags. Ruger 40 S&W mags are 11 preban, so the post ban/foreign aren't blocked by much anyway. I guess if the mags worked with the 357 it could be done. Probably cost a bit though. :rolleyes:
 
My understanding is that once a handgun, always a handgun, so always restricted.

The reason you can rebarrel a Ruger and CX$ Storm to non-restricted is that they are a "carbine".
 
Armedsask said:
The reason you can rebarrel a Ruger and CX$ Storm to non-restricted is that they are a "carbine".
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i know a a couple of nonrestricted storms. there is no catagory of 'carbine' on the registrations. it is either a rifle, shotgun or pistol.
 
It will be like a M1 Carbine with a longer barrel, non-restricted. You can take a restricted firearm amd put a longer barrel and tell them that you have now a non restricted. So if you can find a 19 inches barrel, it'will be non-restricted. Does Ruger make a longer barrel? It'will be intersted.
 
But isn't there something about is being a pistol? I'm sure I read some where that being a pistol is grounds for restriction.

The Storm is just a short barreled rifle and is only restricted because of barrel. For instance, I could get an 18.5 inch barrel for a Glock or Sig and make it non-restricted, could I?
 
This is the Ruger he's referring to sask:

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Definitely not a pistol.;)
 
Hmm, Armedsask's comments made me wonder and think about more theoretical projects, since the 18.5" regs applies only to semi-automatic firearms and the rest are regulated by the overall lenght of 26 or 27 inches (can't remember), could I take a long revolver, let's say a 10" Ruger SuperRedHawk, and fit a 12 inches stock permanently? If you take 10 inches for the barrel, about 3 inches for the frame-grip, plus 12 inches for the stock, that would make a nice non-restricted, fast firing, double-action, 26" OAL carbine... isn't it?

Or is it like ArmedSask said : Once a handgun, always a handgun?

How do they classify those old Revolver carbines (those which aren't antiques)?
 
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a revolver is a semi-automatic firearm, plus i think once its registered as a pistol its always a pistol but you can buy the buckman carabine... anyway back on topic yes get your ruger a longer barrel and have it verified as non restricted.
 
What about those carbines that are basicly revolvers with extended barrels and a buttstock attached? Could you put a 18.5" bbl on them and make the nr?
 
Stevo said:
This is the Ruger he's referring to sask:

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Definitely not a pistol.;)
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I know what he was refering too but some how I thought he was asking about make a pistol non-restricted with a longer barrel.

Handguns are handguns and will always be restricted.
 
It is CFC policy that if a firearm is registered as a handgun, it will remain restricted no matter what is done to its barrel length or overall length. If a shoulder fired firearm is restricted because of barrel length, a longer barrel can result in a change in classification. The Browning .22 built on what appears to be a handgun frame or the "Canada Scout" or Navy Arms revolving carbine are not registered as handguns, having been originally made as carbines, and are therefore non-restricted. You can buy them like that, but you cannot convert a pistol into one. A case in point is the Remington XP100. If it comes into Canada and is originally registered as a pistol, it will be always restricted, no matter what. If one is imported, having been reconfigured as a rifle prior to importation, it is non-restricted. Thompson Centers are in the same category.
 
carbines and caliber

The Ruger PC9 and PC4 are rifles. They are restricted because they are a short barrelled semi-auto rifle. Lever Arms sold a few PC9 and PC4s. They told me a couple of their buyers did the rebarrel and reregister. My idea could be done, but I wonder about the compatibility for 40S&W - 357 SIG conversion. It's just a theory anyway. I'm not really planning to do it.
 
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