There's always one joker in the crowd
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Those jokers are no fun. They can spoil something that's otherwise quite encouraging as the OP's target shows.
But they aren't strangers when using ammo that behaves on average as can be expected. This is the the frustrating part of shooting rimfire as most .22LR ammos will have errant shots.
Below is one with SK RM, often a little better ammo than CCI SV, but still not unusual to have "flyers". (For anyone wondering, the vast majority of SK RM won't shoot tight ten-shot groups consistently, especially at 100 yards.)
But they aren't strangers when using ammo that behaves on average as can be expected. This is the the frustrating part of shooting rimfire as most .22LR ammos will have errant shots.
Below is one with SK RM, often a little better ammo than CCI SV, but still not unusual to have "flyers". (For anyone wondering, the vast majority of SK RM won't shoot tight ten-shot groups consistently, especially at 100 yards.)
Grauhanen,
You've got that right - those jokers are not at all funny.
I've done as much shooting as could, since getting back into the sport. Previously, I knew my shooting needed a lot of work, so the flyers did not bug me too much. Now that I can shoot a little more consistently, they are getting to be a real pain in the neck.
I normally shoot CCI SV - it's a fairly cheap to shoot, but I may at the point where I'll actually benefit from better ammo. I tried out some Sellier and Bellot Canadian Match and it seems to shoot a little better and more consistently, based on the one box I have shot so far, I know the S&B is far from top notch, but being a non-competitive cheapskate, I'm trying to find the "right" round for me to shoot - and at $0.14/round vs $0.12/round for CCI SV, I have no excuse not to try it out. I doubt I shoot well enough for it to make sense for me to spend more on top notch ammo, so I plan on stepping up a little at a time until I find the next sweet spot for me.
I'm surprised to hear your view that SK RM is not much better than CCI SV - from what I've read, I expected it to be better by a good margin. That said, I don't have real world experience with SK RM, so I am going to trust what you are saying - I've read enough posts from you here to understand that I need to listen and learn.
Now, the last item that will limit my shooting is my rifle. It's an older Marlin .22, and I have such an attachment to that specific model, that I'm willing to accept less than my utmost best. If I were competitive, I'd definitely have a different perspective.
Cheers,
Neil
You've got that right - those jokers are not at all funny.
I've done as much shooting as could, since getting back into the sport. Previously, I knew my shooting needed a lot of work, so the flyers did not bug me too much. Now that I can shoot a little more consistently, they are getting to be a real pain in the neck.
I normally shoot CCI SV - it's a fairly cheap to shoot, but I may at the point where I'll actually benefit from better ammo. I tried out some Sellier and Bellot Canadian Match and it seems to shoot a little better and more consistently, based on the one box I have shot so far, I know the S&B is far from top notch, but being a non-competitive cheapskate, I'm trying to find the "right" round for me to shoot - and at $0.14/round vs $0.12/round for CCI SV, I have no excuse not to try it out. I doubt I shoot well enough for it to make sense for me to spend more on top notch ammo, so I plan on stepping up a little at a time until I find the next sweet spot for me.
I'm surprised to hear your view that SK RM is not much better than CCI SV - from what I've read, I expected it to be better by a good margin. That said, I don't have real world experience with SK RM, so I am going to trust what you are saying - I've read enough posts from you here to understand that I need to listen and learn.
Now, the last item that will limit my shooting is my rifle. It's an older Marlin .22, and I have such an attachment to that specific model, that I'm willing to accept less than my utmost best. If I were competitive, I'd definitely have a different perspective.
Cheers,
Neil
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Go below to a thread that I started in 2016 - a report of a Mr. Walsh firing 10 cast bullets into .521" group at 200 yards - breech seating the bullet - reloading the same cartridge case over and over - during a shoulder-to-shoulder competition! I had read in the last paragraph of that article on P. 11, that the 10th shot he fired was the very hardest shot that he had ever made - he could see what his first 9 rounds had done - now needed to plunk the 10th one in there. What could go wrong?
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...t-10-shot-group-at-200yards-with-cast-bullets!
https://www.canadiangunnutz.com/for...t-10-shot-group-at-200yards-with-cast-bullets!
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Much like the days when I shot a 600-42X at 100 yards and 600-38X at 100 metres.
Studying every turn and twist of the ribbon on the wind flags.
Same with Silhouette . . . counting five when you only have three rams down!
Studying every turn and twist of the ribbon on the wind flags.
Same with Silhouette . . . counting five when you only have three rams down!
As others have noted, ammo that shoots eight out of ten really well is not uncommon. Finding the ammo that has only one or two or three flyers per box is not easy. And some lots are just plain poor, regardless of the name on the box.
With regard to SK RM in particular, it's often better than CCI SV. At the same time, it shouldn't be expected to be flyer-free because it's unlikely with that grade of ammo. Some lots of SK RM will have more flyers than others. Price is no guarantee of performance. And as with all varieties of .22LR ammo, some lots will be better than average, some will be worse. No one can know until it's tried.
One ragged hole all day as long as I do my part
"We're not gonna worry about that little guy over there." ?? ;-)
Cheers,
Neil
Well that LITTLE GUY OVER THERE as you put it it knows more about shooting and tuning rifles than anyone youll ever encounter!! Hence why he was the first on the 1/4" club. When the gate drops the Bull#### stops. A quote from when I raced Motocross professionally
I found that SKRM was no better than CCISV until I upgraded my factory Tikka barrel to an IBI. Then my average SKRM group size dropped 30-40%, but my CCISV group size stayed the same. Barrel quality is one of the X factors that often get overlooked I think.
I can't tell if you're joking or not. In case you're serious...
I was joking. Before you start shooting from the hip, it'd be nice if you just asked what someone meant. That little guy over there quote, was a joke on the one flyer in the group, and contrasted with the video. I guess the joke was not to your style.
Last thought for you: if Rabid felt slighted by what I wrote, you may want to give Rabid a chance to respond. He probably doesn't need to be rescued.
Cheers,
Neil
I was joking. Before you start shooting from the hip, it'd be nice if you just asked what someone meant. That little guy over there quote, was a joke on the one flyer in the group, and contrasted with the video. I guess the joke was not to your style.
Last thought for you: if Rabid felt slighted by what I wrote, you may want to give Rabid a chance to respond. He probably doesn't need to be rescued.
Cheers,
Neil
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Rabid,
I'm going cross-eyed just looking at that picture. What size are the squares?
Here's a joke idea for competitions - every shooter gets to discount one shot... from another competitor.
Cheers,
Neil
I'm going cross-eyed just looking at that picture. What size are the squares?
Here's a joke idea for competitions - every shooter gets to discount one shot... from another competitor.
Cheers,
Neil
The first rule of braggin' about a gun on the internet is always discount the fliers
Fliers count in competition though
