They sold me the wrong powder!!! Will this work?

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OK, so I went to Lawrys today to pick up some powder for myself and Storm. I was a bit suspicious of the order when the clerk told me she doesnt shoot or reload. :confused: So I take my order and briefly look over it in the store to make sure they got it right. Tite group - check, 4227 - check, 4895 - check, #11 - check, pyrodex - check. So two hours later I get home and what do I see? H4895. I told her specifically on the phone that I wanted IMR-4895.

So, will this powder work? I have $200 of the wrong stuff! I load military 30 cal mostly. How interchangable is it with IMR-4895? I really need some help here before I ream someone out!
 
My information is that 4895 has the same burning rate from both manufacturer's. It is always prudent to start a little low and work back up when you change a component, even when switching to different lot numbers of the same manufacturer's powder.
 
I gave them a phone call and got the, "how was I supposed to know, I'm not a shooter!" answer. I am going to try this powder out at a reduced rate (10%) Atleast they offered to switch it when they get IMR instock next. I am thinking I must be odd, when I start a new job, I ask lots of questions and learn lots in an effort to ensure I serve my customers well. Be nice if some others did the same!
 
They are considered interchangeable, and there's lots of load data for both to confirm.

Still, if not too much trouble, I'd return it for what you really want.
 
Even when changing lot numbers you should work up the loads again, so using a different 4895 shouldn't be any different. Even canister powders aren't perfect, lot to lot.
 
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Andy said:
They are considered interchangeable, and there's lots of load data for both to confirm.

Still, if not too much trouble, I'd return it for what you really want.
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I was told you are not allowed to return powders? How true is this?
 
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personally i would keep the H and forget about the IMR. the H is, as the literature Hodgdon puts out, temperature stable while IMR is temp sensitive. of course i don't have a pressure sensor to prove this:D
cueball
 
IMR 4895 is a very popular powder and for good reason it is excellent in lots of calibers especially the 308 Win. It is not H4895, IMR has a slightly different profile that makes it a perenial favorite and sets it apart from the Hodgdon powder, the Hodgdon might work OK in your caliber but I would bring the wrong powder back and ask for what I ordered. Life is too short to piss around with other peoples mistakes.
bigbull
 
powder sales, as well as ammuntion sales, are *usually* final, due to possible tampering and insurance issues, yada yada

H4895 should work juuuuussst fine, try it, you'll probably like it. Next time check your stuff before you leave :slap:
 
cueball said:
personally i would keep the H and forget about the IMR. the H is, as the literature Hodgdon puts out, temperature stable while IMR is temp sensitive. of course i don't have a pressure sensor to prove this:D
cueball
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+2 Switch over to the Hodgdon 4895 it is the better of the two.
 
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I tried H4895 last summer in August when it was really hot here on the Island.I wanted to see if the "temperature insensitive" claim was really true an set out to test the claim. I was shooting a .308 Rem 700 and used the max data that was listed on the can. I found the hottest place to shoot and that was a gravel pit with the heat waves rising just like you see in the desert.The loads were very accurate and there was no pressure even at temperatures that would burn exposed skin. This test made me a believer in the Extreme Line of powder by Hodgdon, I have some IMR around but I'm gradually replacing it with the Extreme stuff.Now I don't have to worry about loads that I worked up in the winter being too "hot' for summer varminting.:)
 
I shoot a lot of H-4895 in .30-06, .308 and in my Jungle Carbine. It just works great whether you are hunting or target shooting. Although I really like many of the other IMR`s, I prefer H-4895 over IMR-4895.
 
Hey, try this site http://data.hodgdon.com/cartridge_load.asp

110 GR. BAR XFB 110 H4895 .308" 2.800" 45.0 3005 39,000 CUP 49.0C 3249 49,900 CUP
125 GR. SIE SP 125 H4895 .308" 2.700" 45.0 2891 36,800 CUP 49.0C 3127 48,400 CUP
130 GR. SPR HP 130 H4895 .308" 2.615" 45.0 2903 41,800 CUP 49.0C 3099 50,100 CUP
140 GR. BAR XBT 140 H4895 .308" 2.800" 41.0 2636 36,700 CUP 45.0 2897 50,700 CUP
150 GR. NOS BT 150 H4895 .308" 2.800" 43.0 2742 43,200 CUP 45.5 2870 51,000 CUP
155 GR. SIE HPBT 155 H4895 .308" 2.775" 43.0 2735 42,000 CUP 46.0 2873 49,700 CUP
165 GR. HDY SP 165 H4895 .308" 2.750" 41.0 2525 38,600 CUP 43.5 2694 50,000 CUP
168 GR. SIE HPBT 168 H4895 .308" 2.800" 41.0 2551 38,300 CUP 43.5 2703 49,500 CUP
175 GR. SIE HPBT 175 H4895 .308" 2.800" 40.0 2489 39,100 CUP 42.7 2647 49,000 CUP
180 GR. SPR SP 180 H4895 .308" 2.800" 40.0 2454 41,200 CUP 42.5 2595 49,700 CUP
190 GR. HDY BTSP 190 H4895 .308" 2.740" 39.0 2359 40,400 CUP 42.0 2514 49,500 CUP
200 GR. SFT SP 200 H4895 .308" 2.700" 38.0 2256 42,400 CUP 41.0C 2403 49,400 CUP
 
Would it matter much that I am shooting a .311 out of mine? (it is a russian vs a fin)
 
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