This is probably a dumb (HYPOTHETICAL) question..

Pantharen said:
Would converting a .22 to being belt fed be legal in Canada?

I was saying to my pop tonight, that having a Ruger .22 converted to be a single shot, continues belt fed, would be rather fun..
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Nothing says you can't. Belt fed is only another type of magazine, and being a rimfire long-arm, there are no limits on magazine capacity. However, good luck designing it. I recommend you study and fully comprehend the inner workings of the 1919 (most available belt-fed firearm blueprints) and really get a feel for the system. It is far more complicated design than a box or tube fed system. I can guarantee you, there won't be much semblance of a 10/22 once you are done.
 
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Pantharen said:
Would converting a .22 to being belt fed be legal in Canada?
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I don't know how good your inventing skills are, but if you can pull it off, you're in company with some good designs from Lewis, Maxim, Browning, Gatling, etc.

Blastattack said:
Belt fed is only another type of magazine.
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Is it? I don't know what the law says, but in Army circles it is certainly different. To us, something either uses belts or it uses magazines, unless it literally uses both from different feed paths, like our C9 (FN Minini). The mechanism that pulls the belt through the firearm (if it's automatic) it what makes it a machinegun.
 
Petamocto said:
I don't know how good your inventing skills are, but if you can pull it off, you're in company with some good designs from Lewis, Maxim, Browning, Gatling, etc.



Is it? I don't know what the law says, but in Army circles it is certainly different. To us, something either uses belts or it uses magazines, unless it literally uses both from different feed paths, like our C9 (FN Minini). The mechanism that pulls the belt through the firearm (if it's automatic) it what makes it a machinegun.
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For the purposes of determining legal capacity, it is a magazine. There is some pre-1945 mumbo-jumbo that allows for unlimited capacity, but I do not know the specifics.
 
There are belt fed .22s. There was even a belt fed .22 conversion for the 1919A4 Browning.
Mechanically, a belt fed mechanism for a .22 would be challenging. Being a rimmed cartridge, the system would have to be pull-out, rather than push-through.
A starting point might be to study the patent drawings and manuals for successful belt fed designs.
The horizontal slide, with pawls, and the squirrel cage seem to be the main successful systems.
As mentioned, .22RF firearms are exempt from magazine capacity limits.
 
Petamocto said:
The mechanism that pulls the belt through the firearm (if it's automatic) it what makes it a machinegun.
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Huh?

Uh...No.

The guy that told you that, didn't happen to also believe you could eat the buttons off the old style parkas, did he?

It's a machine gun because it was called that. Light, heavy, medium, etc, are all still machine guns. Not all of them used belts.


There are belt-fed rimfire uppers for the AR platform, as well as some complete belt fed rifles out there, made by Lakeside Machine. Cannot recall the name of the complete model right now, but a quick search should find it. They use a cloth belt, and there has been at least a couple of them through the EE over the last few years. Buncha money! Lakeside picked up the rights to the old Tippman (of paintball fame) designs for mini Browning 1919, and M2 machine guns in rimfire calibers, and has been making them on and off over the years.

Cheers
Trev
 
The guy that told you that, didn't happen to also believe you could eat the buttons off the old style parkas, did he?
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LOL! I haven't heard that one in almost 40 years. I just happen to have one of those old, fox-fur-trimmed parkas too and feeling a might peckish as it's three hours 'till supper...hmmmm.
 
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