Those Vintage Gems Hiding On Used Gun Racks.

I don't understand which part of this 1972 rifle you perceive to be better made than a 2024

That being said, I have literally never come across a good deal at a LGS, the guns have always been significantly more expensive than buying the same thing online whether it was new or second hand.
 
I don't understand which part of this 1972 rifle you perceive to be better made than a 2024

That being said, I have literally never come across a good deal at a LGS, the guns have always been significantly more expensive than buying the same thing online whether it was new or second hand.
My experience about not finding such great deals at LGS was the same as yours. I always look though, because sometimes I was proven wrong. Ten years ago I found a minty 1955 Winchester model 94 in 32 sp for $250 in a small rural gun shop. The clerk said it was priced low because he couldn’t supply ammo for it. The same thing happened again last winter at a large surface store, I saw a Winchester model 37 in 410 gauge (the American built 37, not the Cooey made 37a) that was discounted to $100 because the store hadn’t been able to carry 410 ammo in over a year and couldn’t move that shotgun.
 
The 52 Target is a great gun ... still have nightmares about that I bet. About a year back I found a mid 70’s Rem 552 Speedmaster that looks like it lived its entire life in a safe ... until now of course ;) perfect around the farm as far as I’m concerned.
 
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I always check out the used rack but have only ever bought one, a mint early 80's Marlin 39 for around $500 at Lever Arms maybe 8 years ago.

As to the question of what makes an older deluxe model 10/22 nice, some people prefer the metal parts and the nicer cut checkering on the older walnut stocks. Some might even prefer the flush button release for the magazine.

A friend has an older model that has the original wood stock with a comb and the hand grooves up front that the Hougue stocks copied.

Not a good setup for iron's due to the comb on the stock but the pistol grip shape and finger grooves of that stock deserve a resurrection from Ruger!
 
I don't understand which part of this 1972 rifle you perceive to be better made than a 2024

That being said, I have literally never come across a good deal at a LGS, the guns have always been significantly more expensive than buying the same thing online whether it was new or second hand.
The biggest difference is the quality of the components. There isn't any plastic in an old Ruger 10/22 and the operation is much smoother.

Gems are hidden away on used gun racks because they were priced based off the wrong thing. Like an SKS-D being priced off a standard Chinese SKS.
 
First of all, I have to remind folks here that I live in UK. although the rest of my family is back in SE ON. Prior to the cartridge-firing handgun ban here - 1996/7 - after the Dunblane Massacre - we used to do a LOT of police pistol and combat style wheelgun shooting. My handgun of choice for this was my Wilson-worked S&W 686 heavy barrel full-rib with the four position foresight [that I never actually used] - very sweet to shoot, too. I have had it de-activated, so I can remember what a real revolver feels like. Doing all this amount of shooting - 400/500 per week and lot more on comp weekend, meant that I bought a lot of bullets - 5000 a time - as four of us in the club shared the reloading with a spiffy Dillon press.

Our LGS was in Bedford, a mainly target-oriented store whose husband and wife owners were renowned for their collective grumpiness - him in particular. Every time I went there I'd peruse the wall-mounted gun rack for anything of interest, and my eye was always drawn to this old pre-war Mauser single-shot. It was a full-size rifle in every way, comparable to the centre-fire version, but with a nice stock and epic pre-war finish of blessed memory. But it had no rear sight of any kind. What it did have was a pair of 10 inch long dovetail grooves with numbers engraved to the sides - the foresight was hooded. The tag told me that it was £80 - a VERY small amount of money for what seemed to be a quality piece. So, after two or three visits and some head-scratching, and notwithstanding the lack of a rear sight, I approached Mr Grumpy, produced my Firearms Certificate (FAC), on which there were a couple of empty 'slots' for .22cal rifles, and produced the funds.

'I'm sure I'll find a back sight for it', says I, filled with 'buyer's blindness' - some here will understand that....'huh', was all I got by way of response. I ought to have known how long it would take to find one.

As he was writing it out of his register, and into my FAC, Mrs Grumpy looked over his shoulder at me - 'Hah! You finally gave in, eh? Well, I'll just go and find the scope for it.........'

'WHAT SCOPE?' came the strangled holler from Mr Grumpy, looking at here totally horror-struck. 'Well,' she replied, 'back in 1980 or so, when you took it in to sell for that poor old lady whose husband had died, leaving her to deal with his guns, you said that having that old scope sticking out of the rack was just going to get on your nerves, so I took it off and stuck it in a filing cabinet upstairs, out of the way. I'd just about given up any hope of getting rid of the thing, I'll be honest'.

So saying, she clumped upstairs from where shortly after we heard the muffled clang of a metal filing cabinet opening and closing, followed by a return clumping down the old wooden stairs.

'There y'are!' she said proudly, 'I knew we still had it!' 'It' was a near-mint 2.5 power Ajack scope and see-through mounts. A number 4 German reticle completed the as-new glass view.

Mr Grumpy looked at me over his spectacles, and with clenched teeth, muttered 'Didn't YOU do well?' I agreed, resisting the temptation to make some smug wisecrack about the thousands of pounds we'd spent there over the years, and taking possession of my beautiful Mauser ES350B with its equally spiffy and entirely suitable old scope, I walked out of the store a very happy man.

The story of the missing rear sight must await another time - I figure that I've used up all your patience.

Because of some impossible to figure out restriction, I'm unable to post images here, but if anybody cares to help me out with that, we can share them. :)

Trust me, it's really worth the trouble.
 
I have one of those Mauser ES350 B rifles and you got very lucky with that scope as those sights are crazy hard to find and expensive.The worse part is to a picky collector they are also serialized to the gun
 
I have one of those Mauser ES350 B rifles and you got very lucky with that scope as those sights are crazy hard to find and expensive.The worse part is to a picky collector they are also serialized to the gun

A pal has the repeater - the MS350B - but with the basic tangent sights - no scope. I've offered him the choice of my collection of other Ajack scopes and Weaver K4s - all of which would be good, but he's resisting...

He paid over CAN$1500 for his bare rifle about then years back.
 
Israeli K 98 in 7.62 NATO. Was buying reloading components and chatting with the staff and I asked if they had any new milsurps in the store. The guy told me they had a “ weird German gun” that had just come in. Got a great deal on it.
 
Just found this -
  1. Rifle
  2. Mauser
  3. Bolt Action
  4. .22 LR
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Specification​

  • Make
    Mauser
  • Mechanism
    Bolt Action
  • License
    Firearm
  • Barrel length
    26" 3/4
  • Country of origin
    Germany
  • Trigger
    One Trigger
  • SKU number
    7
  • Model
    MS350B -
  • Calibre
    .22 LR
  • Condition
    Used
  • Orientation
    Right Handed
  • Stock length
    14 "
  • Weight
    9lbs
  • Serial number
    120373

Description​

A rare and sought after top of the line magazine fed sporter /target rifle in excellent condition with the latest 1938 50 metre micrometre sight rear sight ,Barrel markings, Bug/459 proof, ES350 steel code,. Alamange on the top of the barrel, perfect bore & throat and very accurate,. Today I have found vintage correct scope with see-through mounts, its a B Nickel Marburg 4x81 sniper scope to fit the rifle ,.I have now found high mounts to allow You to see through it when it's on the rifle,.

Mauser .22 LR MS350B​

£2,500
 
First of all, I have to remind folks here that I live in UK. although the rest of my family is back in SE ON. Prior to the cartridge-firing handgun ban here - 1996/7 - after the Dunblane Massacre - we used to do a LOT of police pistol and combat style wheelgun shooting. My handgun of choice for this was my Wilson-worked S&W 686 heavy barrel full-rib with the four position foresight [that I never actually used] - very sweet to shoot, too. I have had it de-activated, so I can remember what a real revolver feels like. Doing all this amount of shooting - 400/500 per week and lot more on comp weekend, meant that I bought a lot of bullets - 5000 a time - as four of us in the club shared the reloading with a spiffy Dillon press.

Our LGS was in Bedford, a mainly target-oriented store whose husband and wife owners were renowned for their collective grumpiness - him in particular. Every time I went there I'd peruse the wall-mounted gun rack for anything of interest, and my eye was always drawn to this old pre-war Mauser single-shot. It was a full-size rifle in every way, comparable to the centre-fire version, but with a nice stock and epic pre-war finish of blessed memory. But it had no rear sight of any kind. What it did have was a pair of 10 inch long dovetail grooves with numbers engraved to the sides - the foresight was hooded. The tag told me that it was £80 - a VERY small amount of money for what seemed to be a quality piece. So, after two or three visits and some head-scratching, and notwithstanding the lack of a rear sight, I approached Mr Grumpy, produced my Firearms Certificate (FAC), on which there were a couple of empty 'slots' for .22cal rifles, and produced the funds.

'I'm sure I'll find a back sight for it', says I, filled with 'buyer's blindness' - some here will understand that....'huh', was all I got by way of response. I ought to have known how long it would take to find one.

As he was writing it out of his register, and into my FAC, Mrs Grumpy looked over his shoulder at me - 'Hah! You finally gave in, eh? Well, I'll just go and find the scope for it.........'

'WHAT SCOPE?' came the strangled holler from Mr Grumpy, looking at here totally horror-struck. 'Well,' she replied, 'back in 1980 or so, when you took it in to sell for that poor old lady whose husband had died, leaving her to deal with his guns, you said that having that old scope sticking out of the rack was just going to get on your nerves, so I took it off and stuck it in a filing cabinet upstairs, out of the way. I'd just about given up any hope of getting rid of the thing, I'll be honest'.

So saying, she clumped upstairs from where shortly after we heard the muffled clang of a metal filing cabinet opening and closing, followed by a return clumping down the old wooden stairs.

'There y'are!' she said proudly, 'I knew we still had it!' 'It' was a near-mint 2.5 power Ajack scope and see-through mounts. A number 4 German reticle completed the as-new glass view.

Mr Grumpy looked at me over his spectacles, and with clenched teeth, muttered 'Didn't YOU do well?' I agreed, resisting the temptation to make some smug wisecrack about the thousands of pounds we'd spent there over the years, and taking possession of my beautiful Mauser ES350B with its equally spiffy and entirely suitable old scope, I walked out of the store a very happy man.

The story of the missing rear sight must await another time - I figure that I've used up all your patience.

Because of some impossible to figure out restriction, I'm unable to post images here, but if anybody cares to help me out with that, we can share them. :)

Trust me, it's really worth the trouble.
That was a great story! Thanks for posting that.

Thought to be honest, it scares me a bit, or rather, not scares me but worries me, or maybe pisses me off? Who the hell knows, but i've got some feelings because it sounds a bit like a time machine moment. I mean, there you go once upon a time you were going to the range, shooting, having fun, re-loading with your buddies, but then this or that massacre happens, and bit by bit you lost your guns. First the hand guns, then the long guns, and now you can't even have a swiss army knife with a blade!

There's always people here who accuse you of being alarmist, and say "oh that could never happen here" yet here we are, already with a hand gun ban, quickly going down the same steps you've already gone down.

Somehow we have to keep that from happening here!
 
That was a great story! Thanks for posting that.

Thought to be honest, it scares me a bit, or rather, not scares me but worries me, or maybe pisses me off? Who the hell knows, but i've got some feelings because it sounds a bit like a time machine moment. I mean, there you go once upon a time you were going to the range, shooting, having fun, re-loading with your buddies, but then this or that massacre happens, and bit by bit you lost your guns. First the hand guns, then the long guns, and now you can't even have a swiss army knife with a blade!

There's always people here who accuse you of being alarmist, and say "oh that could never happen here" yet here we are, already with a hand gun ban, quickly going down the same steps you've already gone down.

Somehow we have to keep that from happening here!

There was one town shoot-up in 1986,that cost us all our semi-auto centre-fire rifles and carbines. Then there was one school massacre in 1996 - that cost us here on Mainland UK all our cartridge-firing handguns.

All I'm left with are twenty-one rifles and two handguns....darn it. I don't 'do' shotgunning of any kind.

Not sure where you got the 'news' about Swiss Army knives, like the one I'm wearing as I write this, maybe?

Basically, you have to be 18 or over to buy one, and if you have one in public, then the main blade must not be longer than 3 inches. IF you get stopped by the police and searched, and they find you have a knife on you, be prepared to explain why. But why, I ask, would the police do a 'stop and search' on a 78-y/o man? I've never, in my life, been stopped by the police - nor do I know of anybody who has. Why would they stop me? I'm not making a fuss about anything in public, nor causing a nuisance, nor engaging in any activity that would draw attention to me from the police. TBH, seeing a police car around here is a rare event that makes you look twice, and again, it's something I can't recall happening recently - certainly within the last year.

Got to remember that the vast majority of people here DON'T carry ANY kind of a knife - having absolutely zero need to do so. I live out in the country, and I've been on the range, so I have a Leatherman Wave on one side and my old SAK on the other. I used both.
 
I get a kick out of governments wanting to restrict knives as all a knife is is a sharpened piece of metal that can be manufactured by anyone.A knife is only a weapon if used as such just like a baseball bat ,hockey stick or a rock.A person with evil intent has a whole arsenal of every day things he can use as a weapon if they so desire so banning and restricting never works in the real world but the government won t tell you that as some people might become frightened
 
Not sure where you got the 'news' about Swiss Army knives, like the one I'm wearing as I write this, maybe?


From the Guardian:
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news...nife-maker-to-produce-version-without-a-blade

For more than a century, the Swiss army knife has been an essential piece of kit for everyone from picnickers and equestrians, to golfers and astronauts.

But now the maker of the pocket-knife, with its red or blue shell and multiple tools, has bowed to what an English judge last week called the “plague of knife crime” by designing a new range without blades.
 
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