time for: "I.D THIS MILSURP"...**EDIT**, new pics on pg 2
- Thread starter grouseman
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Well, it used to be an SMLE (possibly a Ligthgow No.1MkIII* judging by the line of proofs atthe woodlinein front of the bolt handle) before someone welded on a tang, converted it to one-piece stock configuration and then did their best to make it ugly.
- Location
- Vancouver Island BC
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I'm not too crazy about the varnish finish...
I'm not too crazy about the varnish finish...
Cocked&Locked
CGN Ultra frequent flyer
- Location
- S. Ontario
sheesh, looks like that stock got a bad case of wood worms!
- Location
- Vancouver Island BC
The varnish is gone and I'm going to give it a coat of linseed and maybe a bit of stain.
I will have to post after pics,it may not look any better but at least that gross varnish will be gone !!!
I will have to post after pics,it may not look any better but at least that gross varnish will be gone !!!
A trick question - it's not a milsurp.
It's a collection of milsurp parts used to make a hunting rifle, and aside from the high-gloss finish, not a bad one.
Up until the 60's or so there were some nice Enfield bubba jobs done with one-piece stocks, so I'd date the job as back to then. Elwood Epps did quite a few with No 4's.
It's a collection of milsurp parts used to make a hunting rifle, and aside from the high-gloss finish, not a bad one.
Up until the 60's or so there were some nice Enfield bubba jobs done with one-piece stocks, so I'd date the job as back to then. Elwood Epps did quite a few with No 4's.
Sported SMLE -- a german gunsmith here in Victoria
BAck in the 1960's and 70's here in Victoria there was a master gunsmith that had come from Germany where he learned his craft.
He did up a few SMLE's with the butt socket machined off and a one piece stock installed.
He then did a beautiful engraving job on those rifles.
I have seen one and was told that he did 12 to 20 rifles -- he did them because he was looking for a job and did up those 12 to 20 to show to gunshops to prove his skills in gunsmithing.
No matter what we think about sported Enfields --we have to admire the gunsmithing skills involved in the machining and stock making and fitting.
Besides -- with millions of SMLE's built I for one have no problem with the occasional professionally sported rifles coming to light.
As a addition to my collection of all original Enfields amongst other makers and models I also have a small collection of professionally sported Enfields from 1895 Lee Enfields to a No1 by Cogswell and Harrison and No4 Parker Hale models from the regular PH to the Supreme some scoped some with PH target sights and also regular sights.
The restoration or just cleaning of a professional sporter adds to the collection of the Enfield models if for no other reason but to show what an old battle rifle was used after hostilities were over and they became surplus to government needs.
And that -- what they were used for is-- to put meat on the table of rural Canadians to supplement the grocery supplies.
I for one have always wanted a converted model with a one piece stock. A professional conversion of course.
Regards
Terry
BAck in the 1960's and 70's here in Victoria there was a master gunsmith that had come from Germany where he learned his craft.
He did up a few SMLE's with the butt socket machined off and a one piece stock installed.
He then did a beautiful engraving job on those rifles.
I have seen one and was told that he did 12 to 20 rifles -- he did them because he was looking for a job and did up those 12 to 20 to show to gunshops to prove his skills in gunsmithing.
No matter what we think about sported Enfields --we have to admire the gunsmithing skills involved in the machining and stock making and fitting.
Besides -- with millions of SMLE's built I for one have no problem with the occasional professionally sported rifles coming to light.
As a addition to my collection of all original Enfields amongst other makers and models I also have a small collection of professionally sported Enfields from 1895 Lee Enfields to a No1 by Cogswell and Harrison and No4 Parker Hale models from the regular PH to the Supreme some scoped some with PH target sights and also regular sights.
The restoration or just cleaning of a professional sporter adds to the collection of the Enfield models if for no other reason but to show what an old battle rifle was used after hostilities were over and they became surplus to government needs.
And that -- what they were used for is-- to put meat on the table of rural Canadians to supplement the grocery supplies.
I for one have always wanted a converted model with a one piece stock. A professional conversion of course.
Regards
Terry
There just something inheritely beautiful in taking a decomissioned weapon of war (soldiers go home when the war is over, weapons get surplussed) and turning it into a work of art .... I for one would be proud to own such a piece.
- Location
- Vancouver Island BC
I think your pullin' my leg ,but make an offer if you feel inclined , John
John 
Greenfields
CGN Regular
- Location
- Lower mainland BC
Hey Terry! When did you arrive over here?
Anyway, every sporterized surplus rifle just increases the value of the all original specimens.
Cheers
Brian
Anyway, every sporterized surplus rifle just increases the value of the all original specimens.
Cheers
Brian
- Location
- Tucson, Arizona
RobSmith said:
Which artist were you referring to? Picasso or Andy Warhol?
I admit that spar varnish may have affected my opinion.
- Location
- Ft. Mac. Alberta
Same as this one, but there is no need to weld a tang, just cut the receiver ans bed thee floor plate.
This one is a very accurate hunting rifle that my father built in the 50's.
Cat
This one is a very accurate hunting rifle that my father built in the 50's.
Cat
