TiNitride coatings

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Does anybody have info on shops in Canada that do Titanium Nitride coating? (like the gold colored forks on a motorcycle, or like some drill bits) I want to have some firearms parts sent in for a thin/slippery coating but cannot seem to find a shop. Preferably western Canada, but I'm not fussy. Thanks.:D
 
Is this the look you're going for?:D
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look for companies that regrind and/or make endmills, you can ask local machine shops where they get their endmills reground
 
hahaha...wow I missed this threads responses by a mile...thats what happens when you are on nights and leave the day after posting something..bad memory!

Anyways, thanks for the replies.

Uhm....is the DE really TiNi coating or one of those 24K bling jobbers from The Home Shopping Network that 50Cent uses for his steering wheel pendants? ;) I doubt it's TiNi, but I have to ask.

*Malice* - aI talked to a couple machine shops and the guy sthey use do bulk orders, or other large runs...I guess you might have to time it right...but I'm still looking into it.

This coating can be a huge deal, aside from the fact it can look like you tried to go one one one competing with rappers 'grills'...it is a very hard, slick surface and would be great for firearms...I think. $$$ maybe?
 
I think you will find that tin is not the best coating for the job but there are many others which are grey in colour and probably better. There are several coaters in the Toronto area, Balzers is one of them. NRC also does research into this, look at their web site.
 
I thought that a hard, slippery", very thin coating would be ideal for friction bound firearms parts? No? I don't care about the color at all....I was just curious to find something different.
 
The plating on the forks of a bike isn't TiN.
The alluminium is adonized, the steel fork is hard chrome coated, like a hydraulic cylinder ram.
 
Backwoods said:
I thought that a hard, slippery", very thin coating would be ideal for friction bound firearms parts? No? I don't care about the color at all....I was just curious to find something different.
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I have been looking around also for someone that does titanium nitride vapor coating, or TiNVC, in Canada. The thought was to do the bolts on our actions.
Standard TiN coating adds too much dimensionally and may not be the same thichness all around on a round part such as a bolt.
So far all I have found is 1 outfit in California, and 1 in Texas which does us no good given the border and all the BS shipping stuff back and forth.
 
Uhm....is the DE really TiNi coating or one of those 24K bling jobbers from The Home Shopping Network that 50Cent uses for his steering wheel pendants? I doubt it's TiNi, but I have to ask.
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the deagle gold finish is either titanum gold or 24k gold, according to magnum reasearch inc's website
 
2fat2fly said:
The plating on the forks of a bike isn't TiN.
The alluminium is adonized, the steel fork is hard chrome coated, like a hydraulic cylinder ram.
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Uhm...the plating of high end forks is Ti-Nitride. Search Ohlins. And it is used quite abundantly on road forks on most recent street bikes like Ducatis. Even some High end DH mountain bikes use it. Anodizing would be WAY too porous to hold back oil from leaking in fork seals. I had a connection a few years ago that had his MX forks redone in it somewhere in Ontario, but lost the info.

ATR - Bolts, barrels (handgun), and such was exactly what I was thinking of. If it may be too thick though, it may prove to be problematic. It was a thought though. Maybe TiNVC is the process I am thinking of, that they use? I know Ohlins fork tolerances are very tight as well...they have to be to win races.
 
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2fat2fly said:
The plating on the forks of a bike isn't TiN.
The alluminium is adonized, the steel fork is hard chrome coated, like a hydraulic cylinder ram.
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The aluminium outside sliders are anodized but the fork stanchions that the sliders... er... slide on are TiN coated steel. TiN has taken over from hard chroming for this application on some bikes. Especially sport bikes and higher end motocross bikes.

Oops, should have read page two first. I see that Backwoods beat me to it already.
 
Backwoods, there are many thin slippery coatings and they all have different properties and some are better for each purpose than others.

We deal with a company that pvd coats their actions and it works very well. They would not do it if they had to be gold in colour, would not make an attractive sniper rifle!

With these plasma coatings it is only possible to do inside a hole about the depth of the diameter so the inside of an action body can not be completely covered and this is probably a good thing to have one surface softer than the other.

I think one would be looking at TiALN for actions.
 
Backwoods said:
Uhm...the plating of high end forks is Ti-Nitride. Search Ohlins. And it is used quite abundantly on road forks on most recent street bikes like Ducatis. Even some High end DH mountain bikes use it. Anodizing would be WAY too porous to hold back oil from leaking in fork seals. I had a connection a few years ago that had his MX forks redone in it somewhere in Ontario, but lost the info.

ATR - Bolts, barrels (handgun), and such was exactly what I was thinking of. If it may be too thick though, it may prove to be problematic. It was a thought though. Maybe TiNVC is the process I am thinking of, that they use? I know Ohlins fork tolerances are very tight as well...they have to be to win races.
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TitaniumNitride Vapor coating goes on a few microns thick, and is very uniform in thickness, standard TiN coating will vary in thickness making its use on close tolerance moving parts like bolts inside bolt actions hit and miss for use. It has fantastic lubricity qualities I am told, which is why I am looking for a source .

Ian any help would be greatly appreciated. If you have any info that you could pass along. I am trying to make the best actions possible here.
 
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