TNW 1919a4 for sale on FirearmsCanada website

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Was looking around the firearmscanada.com website and happened upon an ad for a TNW 1919a4 in .308 for sale . Figured I would share it with my fellow Nutz.

http://www.firearmscanada.com/ads/new-tnw-1919a4-308

Perhaps someone out there with plenty of cash and who is just itching to own a 1919a4, will be interested. That is quite a price jump from what Marstar was selling them for, but seeing how no more will ever get imported I guess it is to be expected.

(Please don't contact me as I am not the seller.)
 
I have a friend that had one, and the damn thing wouldn't feed more then 2 rd's before jamming.
A combination of poor craftman ship,assembeled "just a bit out of spec", and freshly parkerized part's.
Took him a couple year's looking for new part's and trying them out then trouble shooting it again.
He was a weapon's tech in the force's so he know's how to get these to run but like I said it was a poor assembly from the get go.
 
they are not bad weapons, just get to know how this beast works. learn the ins and outs and you can fix any feed problems. i own one and she runs great.:D
 
I have one and mine would never feed linked rnds without a jam in .308

belts it has never jammed

30.06 linked never jams

8mm mauser links never jams

8x63 swedish never jams

parts are a problem esp small parts

I broke a side rail cant recall the part name but the extractor rides on it took me 4 months to find one here in canada (you cant get any parts from the usa.. no export list)
 
there's quite a story about the conversion to 308 from 06 in the 1919 on the net- and it ALL has to do with the links, and the non-feed issue- it was u.s. navy, and we had one when i was in the forces, but i guess it was some worked, some don't type of thing- i can remember we had the big "d" cocking handle and ours was brand new in the crate- the ones we were issued for training were the old wooden handle and fed from the left
 
t-star said:
there's quite a story about the conversion to 308 from 06 in the 1919 on the net- and it ALL has to do with the links, and the non-feed issue- it was u.s. navy, and we had one when i was in the forces, but i guess it was some worked, some don't type of thing- i can remember we had the big "d" cocking handle and ours was brand new in the crate- the ones we were issued for training were the old wooden handle and fed from the left
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Think what you want but I know it was from Marstar.
 
t-star said:
there's quite a story about the conversion to 308 from 06 in the 1919 on the net- and it ALL has to do with the links, and the non-feed issue- it was u.s. navy, and we had one when i was in the forces, but i guess it was some worked, some don't type of thing- i can remember we had the big "d" cocking handle and ours was brand new in the crate- the ones we were issued for training were the old wooden handle and fed from the left
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check your source the 308win was design in the 1950 .... i really have doubt that a such conversion occur in 1919
 
zuke said:
Think what you want but I know it was from Marstar.
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Funny . I guess your friend wasn't much of a weapons tech
I got mine from Marstar yrs ago & I converted it from 3006 to 8X63
It works great & I'm no "Weapons Tech" :D
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In any calibre using browning style "pull out" disintegrating link, or cloth belt they are reliable as Hell, easy to maintain and a dream to shoot. It was when we (Canadian Forces) converted them not only to 7.62x51, but also to use modern "push through" style link as used in the M60 and Mag 58. Imagine the idiocy of using push through link in a machine gun that pulls the rounds out to the rear. That is why the C5A1 GPMG has such a bad rep. If we had used browning link in 7.62 like Israel and South Africa did there would have been no problem.
That being said, AFAIK, no TNW's were converted to use the modern link, so with a little tinkering they should all run like hot snot. Also important is the diameter of the hole on the endcap of the barrel shroud. It may seem that a couple hundredths of an inch shouldn't make much difference but it sure does in a recoil operated system like this.
 
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I think what people don't realize is that the 1919 has a good deal of moving parts that all need to work together for it to function properly. They also need to be kept properly lubed including the barrel bearing. There is also a difference between the USGI 30-06 links and the IZZY .308 links. The spacing between the rounds is different. If you try to run the Izzy links in a gun that is setup to work with the USGI links you can run into feeding issues sometimes. You need to take the time and setup the gun to properly function with the ammo you plan to use. Most importantly you need to check your headspacing each time. You can never assume that the headspacing you used for one lot of ammo is going to always function the same with a different lot or manufacturer. One click either way can make the world of difference.
 
Mine still needs some tinkering, but I just have not had the time.

Feeds 5-8 rounds then jams, always at the feed pawl, pulling the cartridge in sideways.

Need to do some research and do some tinkering.
 
Bazzoka_Joe said:
check your source the 308win was design in the 1950 .... i really have doubt that a such conversion occur in 1919
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- i was referring to the MACHINE GUN which is the 1919a4, not the YEAR- the issue was the navy had a slough of 1919a4s and a6s and didn't want to buy the m60, and the 60 was not suitable for all deployments- well, they changed the barrel( easy enough to do ) but found the feed way wasn't so easy- they eventually made up a special link for it, and for a time there were 2 different links, one for the 60, and one for the 1919- and one didn't fit the other- canada adopted the link for the 1919[ the usn just gave up and went with the 60
 
handled and worked on 4 of these guns ..most parts are well used surplus ..i even saw one with the first rd (tried to fire) sheer off the accelerator ...took him several months to get a new one from tnw..then he tried again and the welds cracked after one belt just by the rivets which also got loose ...the other guns just had small parts and headspace issues ...the mg34s arnt much better ..heavy trigger and very used parts ..lets face it these guns havent been made in while and off the shelf parts dont fit at least more so with the 1919s..i did have to replace an ejector on 34 cuz it was loose and the empty was getting jammed under it a..they cant all be bad i know of a couple that work great ..more so with the cloth belts
 
zuke said:
I have a friend that had one, and the damn thing wouldn't feed more then 2 rd's before jamming.
A combination of poor craftman ship,assembeled "just a bit out of spec", and freshly parkerized part's.
Took him a couple year's looking for new part's and trying them out then trouble shooting it again.
He was a weapon's tech in the force's so he know's how to get these to run but like I said it was a poor assembly from the get go.
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If it took him 2 years to get it going......Ummmm........is he still a weapons tech in the forces? :D

Some wars don't even last 2 years!
 
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