TNW ASR 22LR vs GSG-15 more guns or conversion kits?

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Thinking of getting a plinker for my first gun.
I thought the GSG-15 would be pretty good fun for the money but I found out recently that TNW has released a 22LR barrel kit. Of course the TNW is more money but because of the different calibre kits has room to grow. I'm not sure if the TNW 22LR kit is available in Canada yet as I have yet to find it online.

Open to suggestions while I wait.

Bonus question: 9mm and a matching 22LR pistol (S&W M&P) or 9mm pistol with 22LR conversion (Glock)
 
Conversions are nice but dedicated guns mean you can go to the range with a friend and both shoot..... :)
I wouldn't consider a TNW .22lr for a plinker even though I have an ASR. I'd rather get a dedicated .22lr that I can shoot when the centerfire guns need to cool down..... :)

Conversions make the most sense for some kind of survival kit or in countries where you can only register a certain number of guns.
 
GSG is a good gun, got a buddy that uses one for speed steel, he enjoys it and it seems to function pretty good. I personally went with the S&W 15-22, unbelievable .22 rifle but Restricted,,I only shoot at the range so that doesn't bother me. I agree with Can-down as far as conversions go, not much more expensive to have a dedicated gun, and then you have two :)
It's nice to shoot the same platform in .22 and 9mm, the M&P pistols are nice that way, we shoot with 3-4 guys running M&P's and they all enjoy them. I have a G19, and just picked up another with the .22 Advantage Arms kit on it, but it is registered as a .22 , so I will be running the same platform in IDPA and using the .22 for speed steel.
I see you are in the lower mainland,,if you don't mind the drive out to Chilliwack I'm sure you could join us for a day at the range to try a few out and see what you like
Edgy
 
My GSG-15 suffered a catasprophic failure of the bold carrier after about 10k rounds. Looked to be metal fatigue.

The GSG-15 is a decent gun but it isnt very take-apart friendly. To fully strip the gun involves a ton of easy to strip screws. Unfortunatly a full disassembly needs to be done every 1-2k rounds for proper cleaning.

The gun is also picky on ammo. If you cant get a good supply of cheap CCI minimags this gun wont be for you.
 
GSG mainly makes airsoft toys, I rather have a firearm manufacturer make my firearms.
I personally found as I got more into the shooting sports my absolute favourite 22lr plinker is a Russian single shot 22 I bought 3 years back for $60, it shoots any ammo I put in it (22 short all the way to 22lr) always cycles and is very accurate. Since it was rather cheap I never worry about babying it or letting new shooters try it. My 10/22 just sits in my safe gatherin dust now as I grab either my cheap 22 single shot or my cz455.
The main thing to watch for in plinkers is that it is not picky with what it shoots (I know some people with semi-auto 22s that only cycle reliably with velocitors), nothing ruins a fun shooting day than constantly fixing jams.
 
edgy said:
GSG is a good gun, got a buddy that uses one for speed steel, he enjoys it and it seems to function pretty good. I personally went with the S&W 15-22, unbelievable .22 rifle but Restricted,,I only shoot at the range so that doesn't bother me. I agree with Can-down as far as conversions go, not much more expensive to have a dedicated gun, and then you have two :)
It's nice to shoot the same platform in .22 and 9mm, the M&P pistols are nice that way, we shoot with 3-4 guys running M&P's and they all enjoy them. I have a G19, and just picked up another with the .22 Advantage Arms kit on it, but it is registered as a .22 , so I will be running the same platform in IDPA and using the .22 for speed steel.
I see you are in the lower mainland,,if you don't mind the drive out to Chilliwack I'm sure you could join us for a day at the range to try a few out and see what you like
Edgy
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I also have a M&P 15-22... and it's a wonder to shoot... but why the FK it's restricted beats the hell out of me.. "AR15" variant... the only thing that's the same is the trigger group!

OP: I also had a GSG15, and it was nice! Sold it to buy a CMMG conversion kit for a NR rifle.
 
Bit off topic.

22 wmr semi rifles all seem to suffer from jams. The various ammo differs so much ...lot to lot and manufacturer...that its a pain to operate one. Since this is about pistol carbines...converted to shoot 22...its really easy to shoot a lot of 9mm through these. Most people are going to be reloading for 15c/, or buying the $250/1000 deal. Prices for 22lr isnt a huge saving, when you factor in the price of the conversion. I believe the pistol caliber conversions for the TNW are about $530. How many K of 22lr would you need to shoot to get to the break even point....alot.
 
BitboyBen said:
Thinking of getting a plinker for my first gun.
I thought the GSG-15 would be pretty good fun for the money but I found out recently that TNW has released a 22LR barrel kit. Of course the TNW is more money but because of the different calibre kits has room to grow. I'm not sure if the TNW 22LR kit is available in Canada yet as I have yet to find it online.

Open to suggestions while I wait.

Bonus question: 9mm and a matching 22LR pistol (S&W M&P) or 9mm pistol with 22LR conversion (Glock)
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If you are looking for a non-restricted "tactical" .22lr. Can I direct your attention to the Walther G36-22?

Quite expensive unfortunately (~$700) and only IRUNGUNS has any in stock.
 
Just picked up a GSG-15 and it is so much fun to shoot... Puts a smile on my face.
There are other guns for specific purposes, but this one is for gun.
 
While not at tactical as the previous mentioned models, the Marlin 795 is a phenomenal little semi auto 22. 200$ for the gun and add a few 25 round mags and you have a reliable, accurate little plinker. Phenomenal value.
 
First off G36 is Beauty! Bummer about the mag capacity.
M&P 15/22: I like that idea as well I was planning the big boy version any way for some eventual 3 gun. Having the 22LR and 5.56mm versions would be pretty good as I assume they would otherwise be nearly identical for training. Being restricted doesn't bother me too much as we have, imo, a super awesome range near my place. I imagine I'll spend most of my shooting time there. I guess the M&P 15/22 is also restricted to 10 rounds like the G36. I read some rumors that a 30+ cartridge magazine was still legal. With out all those extra rounds I'll have to edit my videos a bit more if I am to play Christmas carols on iron targets. Ping ping ping, ping ping ping, ping ping pong pong ping...
Marlin? $200?!!! Maybe if I got all restricted I could do that for my hiking plinker! And finally yes please take me to a range some day! I was gonna post in the mentor wanted section once my schedule cleared up. I wanna try all the guns!
 
You can find 30 round Promags for the 15-22 and there are also S&W 25 round out there, hard to find but you can get them. Of course they sell the rifle with pinned 10 round mags lol. A bunch of us shoot almost every weekend at Chilliwack and there is a good variety of different handguns and rifles out there to have a look at. When you have some free time, private message me here and we can set something up if you like, always nice to handle some before you buy, especially handguns because they all fit the hand differently, what you like the look of May not be the one that works for you personally.
There are a lot of competitive events in the lower mainland if that appeals to you also, IDPA, Speed Steel, Tactical rifle, IPSC etc, and all are a blast to shoot, great people and gives your shooting a purpose other than punching holes lol.
Edgy
 
BitboyBen said:
First off G36 is Beauty! Bummer about the mag capacity.
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Strictly speaking about the G36-22, the Colt M4-22 magazine is designed and manufactured for a rimfire rifle the Colt M4-22. There is no Colt M4-22 handgun and thus Colt M4-22 Magazines are not prohibited devices when they can hold more than 10 rounds as the magazines are designed and manufactured for a rimfire rifle.
 
chillyrabbit said:
Strictly speaking about the G36-22, the Colt M4-22 magazine is designed and manufactured for a rimfire rifle the Colt M4-22. There is no Colt M4-22 handgun and thus Colt M4-22 Magazines are not prohibited devices when they can hold more than 10 rounds as the magazines are designed and manufactured for a rimfire rifle.
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This is good news! I'll have to put that on my list. I do find as a newbie it is hard to find this kind of stuff out for myself on the interwebs. The 10 round cap on a lot these rim fire guns is imo a bit silly cuz rim fire is the only (mostly) way to have +10 round magazines. However when I go shopping i cant find any dang cool rimfires with decent capacity. Any way it has been bugging me. The rest of my planned collection seems pretty straight forward. Pistol(s), shotty (ducks are delicious), long range(grandpa would be proud), and finally because I still can, AR-15 of some sort.

And yes I do want to do some competitive shooting. My PAL course instructor was pretty big on IPSC and frankly it looks pretty awesome. I don't know what the rest of those competitions involve but it sounds great.
 
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