To build Stock for Coach Gun Supreme Shotgun

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Stoger makes them ambidextrous. So in my case (right handed shooter) shots tend to land a bit leftward. I was thinking of bending the original stock to get enough cast off, but then concluded that this idea sucks. As in most cases the wood tends to straighten up back anyways with some time a while after.
I'm also open for an idea of getting a ready to install solution. But I can't find any...
So at the end I decided to carve my own stock. I've had some wood work experience in my past, so I feel like I can do it.
QUESTIONS:
where can I buy a suitable piece of maple wood or a similar of about 17x6x2.5" size ?
I'm also open for any other kind of solution.

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Google " rifle stock blanks" or "2 piece rifle stock blanks"

Lots of info here Gunstock Blank Sources In Canada? | Canadian Gun Nutz https://share.google/p18qKE9ruqvlGlDBA

You can get them out of the states, or lots in Canada, eBay has some too.

Loads should come up. Also there are specialty stores that sell wood that can be used. Like https://exotic-woods.com/ they have 10 types of maple

I got these from there. The top 2 are walnut and the bottom 2 are bocote. Very good prices.


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Evanguy said:
Google " rifle stock blanks" or "2 piece rifle stock blanks"

Lots of info here Gunstock Blank Sources In Canada? | Canadian Gun Nutz https://share.google/p18qKE9ruqvlGlDBA

You can get them out of the states, or lots in Canada, eBay has some too.

Loads should come up. Also there are specialty stores that sell wood that can be used. Like https://exotic-woods.com/ they have 10 types of maple

I got these from there. The top 2 are walnut and the bottom 2 are bocote. Very good prices.
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Hi Evanguy ,
thanks for the info. I've checked the https://exotic-woods.com/ . It is not very clear where they display pieces of wood which would suit my sizing/purpose... There are mostly the ones for home maintenance, etc. Did you phone them and ask?
I was able to find an interesting bird's eye : https://exotic-woods.com/shop/maple-birdseye/ , but the size which they advertise 3/4 x 7-1/2 doesn't look right.
Ebay search - yeah, it brings a lot of gun stock options, which could potentially save time and effort. But nearly all of those are old ones which taken off gun, drilled inside, etc, which is a very doubtful choice.

p.s. Bocote - is beautiful wood. But it requires slow, careful drying due to natural oils. Did you need to dry it? Or you received it in already good condition?
 
I seen a bunch of blanks on GP the other day, there was a few nice 2 piece in them. I would ask to have the moisture tested on whichever route you go, jme.

I usually order a couple Turkish rifle blanks each spring from a friend in Turkey. If you’re not in a hurry I will be making an order in April/May and am happy to add to it.

I think the ones on the other site there would be a cheaper option, just depends what kind of wood you’re looking for.

Dressel’s across the boarder is a reputable blank dealer. Lots of photos to look through at least to give an idea of some wood

https://dressels.com/
 
Decker9 said:
I seen a bunch of blanks on GP the other day, there was a few nice 2 piece in them. I would ask to have the moisture tested on whichever route you go, jme.

I usually order a couple Turkish rifle blanks each spring from a friend in Turkey. If you’re not in a hurry I will be making an order in April/May and am happy to add to it.

I think the ones on the other site there would be a cheaper option, just depends what kind of wood you’re looking for.

Dressel’s across the boarder is a reputable blank dealer. Lots of photos to look through at least to give an idea of some wood

https://dressels.com/
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I would say I'm not super picky, I just want a suitable piece of wood which would be stable and strong enough. If it happens to get a beautiful one - great. I think to carve a Monte Carlo style stock out of it. Moisture tested - sounds like a great idea. Could you share some reference numbers to keep in mind please? You can PM me on how much would it cost a blank from your Turkish friend. Thanks!
 
qcdude said:
I would say I'm not super picky, I just want a suitable piece of wood which would be stable and strong enough. If it happens to get a beautiful one - great. I think to carve a Monte Carlo style stock out of it. Moisture tested - sounds like a great idea. Could you share some reference numbers to keep in mind please? You can PM me on how much would it cost a blank from your Turkish friend. Thanks!
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A couple makers who’ve helped me in my journey, won’t touch a blank with moisture higher then 10%, but preferably 7-8% is better they say.

Blanks from the guy I order from in Turkey can range from $100 usd to $2000, just depends on what a guys looking for.

If you’re not picky, I have a piece of leftover Turkish walnut that would make a nice forend, but would need to find a butt stock block still.

sean69 said:
If it's Turkish you want find this guy on instagram https://www.instagram.com/gunstockblanks_by_yurttas/?hl=en - hope you have a fat wallet, gonna be some sticker shock there.

Find your local woodworking groups, clubs, Luthiers or custom furniture builders and ask them where they go locally, stock material for a gun is no different than that for a guitar or chair - same moisture content, etc.
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I inquired on two blanks last summer from Yurttas, $2500 usd, both were gorgeous quarter sawn. He supplies about the best Turkish walnut out there, but defiantly $$$$
 
Suggest you try Alain Combes, he's in your neck of the woods. He is a European trained gunsmith that has a stock bending jig. He can likely advise on overall gun fit (cast, drop, LOP, etc) and correct accordingly. Plan B could involve the addition of an adjustable butt pad.
Finally, you need to establish whether the gun has a barrel regulation issue. This is rather common, even on much more expensive shotguns.
 
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Decker9 said:
A couple makers who’ve helped me in my journey, won’t touch a blank with moisture higher then 10%, but preferably 7-8% is better they say.

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Wood straight from the tree will have a higher moisture content, and gently drying it without developing cracks is an art to itself. There's air-drying vs kiln-drying too. A lot of woodworkers will want to buy early and let it dry to the known conditions of their own wood storage rack. Having a moisture tester of your own can be useful too. You want it down into the single-digit % neighbourhood before shaping and finishing.
 
cosmic said:
Suggest you try Alain Combes, he's in your neck of the woods. He is a European trained gunsmith that has a stock bending jig. He can likely advise on overall gun fit (cast, drop, LOP, etc) and correct accordingly. Plan B could involve the addition of an adjustable butt pad.
Finally, you need to establish whether the gun has a barrel regulation issue. This is rather common, even on much more expensive shotguns.
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I was able to google his address. I will try to contact him. Thanks!

I'm somewhat familiar with gun fit process. The only problem is that I'm not sure if it is worth trying to bend the stock... For sure that guy knows more. So let me see.

Decker9 , turkish walnut is beautiful material. But I don't see a point to invest $$$$ into $600 shotgun. I was thinking of some piece of wood under $100... This would be my first try. So there is very small but a non-zero risk to screw it up. I just need a some sort of reliable solution. Thanks for offering me the forend material. I think I need to find a piece of wood for stock first. Then I will see how much the factory forend differs in color and pattern, etc. Maybe I would be able to sandpaper it, stain, re-cover, etc... Just to give context, I've recently cleaned the wood stock and forend of my Baikal OU, then stained and treated it with boiled lin seed oil. Now that shotgun looks better than when it was new :D. It is straight shooter and my choice #1 for turkey hunting. And I took many turkeys with it.
 
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If you're doing the work yourself, you've got nothing to lose by trying to bend it. If it goes wrong, or doesn't work you're no worse off than you are now, looking to carve a new stock.

 
Considering the price of the shotgun, I would just lower and thin the comb to change POI. Then touch up or refinish.
If you want a cheap, good quality blank, expect to search for a while.
The best option for a DIY'er, in my opinion, is to get 1" thick walnut (or preference) from a local lumber yard and glue two layers together. I've done it several times, with excellent results.

The last blank I bought cost $70 just to ship. Gack!
 
I cut a few rifle planks several years ago that sat in my hay mow for years: I cut them down to one piece dimension sizes last year and they've been in the basement since... I'd have had a few pieces of Black Walnut for two piece stocks if I hadn't cut out the one piece stocks. Unfortunately the two planks I have in the shed suffered from tangential ring shake that wasn't apparent at sawing: I'll check, but I don't think there is a section tall enough that doesn't cross the pith or the shake. I don't recall having any Sugar Maple thick enough that is seasoned though I could make a piece that would be good in a few months. I'll post back if I dig up anything. It would definitely cost less than $100, and I'm near SFRC so shipping is not far.

I'm pretty sure I have 1" rough sawn in both Sugar Maple and Walnut if you are okay with 2 piece laminate. There is a wood shop in Montreal called Langevin Forest: I can't remember where it is, I was only there once many years ago.
 
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