Tokarev reloading and stopping the brass going in to orbit?

[Fox]

Anyone reload for the tokarev figure out a load that does not throw the brass in to space?

I know that mil surplus is cheap but I am not a huge fan of super cleaning every time I want to take 1 or 2 shots out of a gun. The plan is to reload Campro bullets in brass cases. The S&B brass cased ammo I shot the last time I was out sent the brass flying at least as far as an SKS, will light loads stop this?

 

[theophys]

What super cleaning are you talking about? Tokarevs field strip in 20 seconds and you can literally boil all the parts in water (or/and soak in hoppe's 9) for as long as you feel comfortable

 

[Fox]

What super cleaning are you talking about? Tokarevs field strip in 20 seconds and you can literally boil all the parts in water (or/and soak in hoppe's 9) for as long as you feel comfortable

Well that is it, coming home after the rare chance I get to the range then have to strip the gun right away and get it in boiling water. The fact is that most of the time I get back from the range to 2 screaming young children who I need to tend to, get them food, do chores, take care of the farm, etc, so the stripping and cleaning does not happen on the same day I get a chance to actually make it to the range.

Even with the muzzle loaders, I actually dread taking them out as I know the process that I need to get them properly clean will cut in to the time that I really do not have.

If I have time to go shooting one day after work or one morning I probably do not have time to clean the gun.

This is why all the corrosive 7.62x39 I had has either been sold or broken down for components for plinking in my 303 Brits.

 

[ted_dent]

The lighter the load the less violent the ejection will be. You will need to hit the sweet spot where the cases just reliably eject but no more. I'm not sure if such a thing exists but a heavier recoil spring will also reduce ejection distance as it will slow down the speed at which the slide moves.

 

[MuthaFunk]

You can start by loading recommended minims.



Sorry for the low rez. Not sure why that happened. I found the .pdf on Campros site.

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One of my pet loads is 4gr Bullseye under 110 gr M1 Carbine bullet. Very easy on the hands for beginner shooters. My Russian TT-33 has seen two crates of surplus and the spring is perhaps a bit weak allowing for lower charges to cycle it.

 

[Fox]

The lighter the load the less violent the ejection will be. You will need to hit the sweet spot where the cases just reliably eject but no more. I'm not sure if such a thing exists but a heavier recoil spring will also reduce ejection distance as it will slow down the speed at which the slide moves.

Have you had luck with the tokarev doing this?

This was my assumption, probably start loads.

 

[Fox]

You can start by loading recommended minims.

Sorry for the low rez. Not sure why that happened. I found the .pdf on Campros site.

Edit.

One of my pet loads is 4gr Bullseye under 110 gr M1 Carbine bullet. Very easy on the hands for beginner shooters. My Russian TT-33 has seen two crates of surplus and the spring is perhaps a bit weak allowing for lower charges to cycle it.

Does this load just dump the brass beside you? I picked up 500 85gr campro. I have HP-38/Win 231 but also have titegroup and was wanting to hold on to the w231 for the old weird rounds that do not list other things.

I like how campro has the data for their bullets, would be nice if they had the 110gr listed too but there are a bunch of guys loading that so I could work with it, I wish they had a velocity estimate listed, but what are you going to do, ha ha.

 

[Snider shooter]

I use 95 gr cast bullets with Reddot. I started low and worked up. At 4.1 grs I was getting failure to eject. My current load is 4.3 grs of Reddot. Cases are 3 to 6 feet back on my left side. Anytime I fire military loads I check behind me to see how close the cars are parked. 20 ft and cars where being hit by brass.

 

[Fox]

I use 95 gr cast bullets with Reddot. I started low and worked up. At 4.1 grs I was getting failure to eject. My current load is 4.3 grs of Reddot. Cases are 3 to 6 feet back on my left side. Anytime I fire military loads I check behind me to see how close the cars are parked. 20 ft and cars where being hit by brass.

The S&B factory ammo seems to be similar to the military stuff then, insanity.

I told my wife that I am bringing a large blue tarp next time I go shooting, cover my right side and hopefully catch the brass.

Surprisingly we found all but 3 or 4 of 50 in the grass.

 

[ted_dent]

Have you had luck with the tokarev doing this?

This was my assumption, probably start loads.

Yep. It's why I virtually never shoot factory ammo in any of my guns (in addition to the cost factor). While a big boom and fireball might be impressive in the short run it gets old real quick, wears the gun out faster and usually is no more accurate than lighter target loads. In most situations the bullet only has to be going fast enough to put a hole in a piece of paper so hot loads are not a necessity.

 

[MuthaFunk]

Does this load just dump the brass beside you? I picked up 500 85gr campro. I have HP-38/Win 231 but also have titegroup and was wanting to hold on to the w231 for the old weird rounds that do not list other things.

It doesn’t throw them nearly as far as factory or military stuff, but right beside you? That’s a hit subjective. I never measured it to be honest but I don’t have a problem collecting the brass.

Titegroup would work well. Try the 4 gr staring load recommended by Campro. I bet it’ll work fine for you.

 

[Fox]

Yep. It's why I virtually never shoot factory ammo in any of my guns (in addition to the cost factor). While a big boom and fireball might be impressive in the short run it gets old real quick, wears the gun out faster and usually is no more accurate than lighter target loads. In most situations the bullet only has to be going fast enough to put a hole in a piece of paper so hot loads are not a necessity.

I don't chase velocity unless it is hunting rounds, and even then accuracy needs to be there.

 

[Fox]

It doesn’t throw them nearly as far as factory or military stuff, but right beside you? That’s a hit subjective. I never measured it to be honest but I don’t have a problem collecting the brass.

Titegroup would work well. Try the 4 gr staring load recommended by Campro. I bet it’ll work fine for you.

Thanks, I was more worried that this system just does not do well with brass, like the AG42 rifle.

I have a bit of factory ammo, have to save up to buy the dies and such for the tokarev, worried about getting the guns before they were banned and figured I would get the reloading gear later.