Tough Targets

[Falconflyer]

The old saying is you can shoot any choke you want as long as its full choke.

And a lot of the top shooters do just that!

The last I read about Digweed is that his Perrazzi was choked full and full. He eventually had a second set of barrels fitted that were mod and mod, for those close targets!

 

[bdft]

For those interested, there is a 2010 book written by Dr. A C Jones. Took him 7 years of extensive testing and compiling data related to shotguns to produce the book. One interesting observation related to rotational spin, is that because of spin you cannot tell where you hit the target. You may have hit it at the rear edge of its flight but because of its spin, it may actually appear that pieces came off the front. Jones used high speed photography to determine where a hit was actually made and compared this to observations made by experienced shooters. Conclusion, the "experts" telling you the target was hit at the back or front is simply a guess and the human observations were wrong as many times as they were right.

Neil Winston on Trapshooters.com goes on about this at length too. I think there is some high speed video posted on there as well showing targets coming apart. According to the experts you can't reliably call your shots but try arguing that on the trap field.

 

[salter]

I just googled his name and came up with a book called "Sporting Shotgun Performance", presumably this is the one your talking about. Amazon has them for $72.50, looks like a good read!

Spank, sounds like lots of video footage although in the book it will all be still's.

Yes, that is the book. Some chapters take a lot of concentration. I didn't touch the chapter on CFD. If you need to ask what CFD is, you also won't be reading that chapter.

The book is compiled from organized experimentation and I found it quite factual. He shot some 2500 test patterns to get his results.

 

[stubblejumper]

The old saying is you can shoot any choke you want as long as its full choke.

For trap perhaps, but for skeet and sporting clays, full is not the ideal choice. The target that I posted the picture of, was shot on a sporting clays field. As for the targets not breaking, it is even more of an issue shooting the sub gauge event with a 410, if you tighten the choke to get more pellets on the clay, the pattern get's even smaller, if you use larger shot to help to break the targets, the pattern becomes even more sparse. I shoot a 410 often, and choking for smoke isn't very practical.

 

[JIMMY 808]

How do you lead them when they are hung on a fence

Just to the left to account for a slight breeze,


Any more wind though and 7.5s would have been needed.

 

[JIMMY 808]

For trap perhaps, but for skeet and sporting clays, full is not the ideal choice. The target that I posted the picture of, was shot on a sporting clays field. As for the targets not breaking, it is even more of an issue shooting the sub gauge event with a 410, if you tighten the choke to get more pellets on the clay, the pattern get's even smaller, if you use larger shot to help to break the targets, the pattern becomes even more sparse. I shoot a 410 often, and choking for smoke isn't very practical.

I use the right choke.

 

[bluelynx]

Salter:

Dr. A.C. Jones is quite a character.

I challenged in a private email to Dr. Jones about the superiority of his current free internet shot shell analysis over studies like the German Berlin Wansee tests of the late thirties and the Thospson Oberfell experiments from Oklahoma State University in the late fifties. All I can say is WOW. This guy knows his statistical analysis.


My conclusion was practice practice and more practice on the range unless I was a super high skilled Digweed sort of guy.


Mind you, I think I am going to set up a Dr. A.C. Jones test system for fun on the south forty.

 

[saskbooknut]

Digweed got where he is shooting 50k a year at least, as all great performers do. Talent still needs intelligent practice.