Toz-8m

[Brutus]

I have this Soviet era TOZ made around 1973 or so. A single shot rifle with it's ramp sight much like a old Mk III LE.
With it's original iron sights, today was no different with pretty darn good results @100 yards. And the ramp sight "agreed" with this range.
Then things got really strange at 200 yards. After three rounds of nothing on an eight inch target, I started shooting one shot each, at the bottom and top corners of the larger white backing paper behind the 8inch black. Of these 4 shots, again, nada on paper. Not happy, but willing to try one last thing, I purposely aimed a foot low of the black and centered. (Ramp sight still set at the 200 setting) Bingo! One, then two shots in the black. The wind gusts then came up and threw the last few, mostly way right.

Aside from the wind, with this strange registration of sights at 200 yards, using SK Standard Plus ammo, I was wondering if any TOZ-8 owners have had similar shooting experiences at this distance?

 

[JBD]

Brutus in my opinion it would be impossible to produce calibrate sights for 22 lr for extended range. A change in temperature, pressure, wind, a butterflies fart could change the trajectory at extended range. You will have to adjust your sight for the ammo that your using and the shooting conditions each time you are out.

 

[Brutus]

I think I'm going to break down further shooting experiements into phases.
First will be a cursory selection of ammunition that shoots best at 50 yards.
Then using the best ammo, I'm going onto 100 yards, then 150, 175, 200 on a day with no wind at the range.
All the while incrementally adjusting the ramp upwards and recording the results.
This is the only way I can see working out the preceived difference in a logical manner.

 

[rimfiremac]

Shooting 200 with rimfire is similar to shooting 400-500 with centerfire with respect to bullet flight path variables. At that range, the sight settings would be a ballpark first guess at best. I've stretched aperture sights out that far, and its mostly an exercise in frustration. But, none the less entertaining. Good luck.

 

[JBD]

I think I'm going to break down further shooting experiements into phases.
First will be a cursory selection of ammunition that shoots best at 50 yards.
Then using the best ammo, I'm going onto 100 yards, then 150, 175, 200 on a day with no wind at the range.
All the while incrementally adjusting the ramp upwards and recording the results.
This is the only way I can see working out the preceived difference in a logical manner.

while your approach appears totally logically you will find out that what works best at short range will not work necessarily work best at longer range. CCI stingers work great at short range, to 100 meters and terrible at longer range.

I had good success with PMC target ammo. But even dynapoints were usable at extended range. Premium ammo is better and if your shooting budget is unlimited than have at it, however it is your ability to read the conditions that will have the greatest effect on hitting your target at extended range.

 

[Brutus]

Gonna start somewhere, and will try SK Standard Plus first.
I am not a stranger to shooting a 22 rifle at eccentric distances. Used to be that my BSA had alot of use in the past.
Spending money on Eley, Lapua, Sk is not a big thing for me.
In this rifle CCI Stingers never perforrmed very well at long range and I would never choose to use it for this myself as I think it's too hot & it's case too long, for any of my russian rifles. Nor would I use it in my ES 350B Mauser either.

Each rifle 'prefers' some ammo more than others.
But I've had pretty good luck in the past with:
-Lapua Standard Club
-SK Standard Plus
-Eley Black box
-Eley Red box

Honorable mention to Winchester Power Point.