Transfer of firearms

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C04dy

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Hey all,
Im sorry if this has been posted before but i swear i searched it.

Anyways im 18 years old and have been shooting guns a long time, just recently in june i got my PAL for restricted/non-restricted and have built a nice little collection. So far all my transactions have been at the store or in person and only for non-restricted. Im interested in buying some restricted firearms and am a little foggy about how the shipping process works.

I understand the process of both parties calling CFC to transfer registration of the gun etc, but how does shipping work, is there any special permits i would need to get or anything like that? is it as simple as shipping it courrier etc? Help would be apprecieated.
 
AFAIK there are no special permits needed, but it will have to be shipped by courier as Canada Post does not ship firearms (or it might just be restricted firearms, not sure).

Trying to find the info online, but alas...I can not. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
 
Cerdan said:
You're wrong Blurr. Don't spread lies.
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I'm always wrong...what else is new? :p

Firearms (including imitation and replica firearms)

Please contact the Canadian Firearms Centre at www.cfc-cafc.gc.ca or by calling 1-800-731-4000 to determine whether it is permissible to ship your firearms.
When it is determined permissible to ship firearms, they must be shipped as follows:

Customer Type Service To Be Used
Non-contract Customer Regular Parcel with Signature option

Contract Customer Expedited Parcel with the Proof of Age (18 or 19) with Signature option using Electronic Shipping Tools (EST). Visit section 5.3.1 “Mail Addressed to Children” of the “ABCs of Mailing” chapter for an age of majority by province or territory listing.

There cannot be any ammunition in the firearm or in the package. Bullets, cartridges and other ammunition are dangerous goods and cannot be mailed. These items fall under Class 1 (Explosives) of the Canadian Transportation of Dangerous Goods Act.
Customers who wish to ship firearms must :

  • unload the firearms
  • attach a secure locking device to the firearms
  • lock the firearms in a sturdy, non-transparent container and
  • remove the bolt or bolt carrier from any automatic firearms (if removable).
Firearms cannot be shipped via air and cannot have any markings on the outside of the packaging. The Customer is solely responsible for meeting all Canadian Firearms Centre regulations.
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Pulled from the Canada Post website here

Amazing what googling will do...perhaps I should do that more often before I post :D
 
Yes, learn a lesson from aliceminer, don't start counselling others until you know what the hell you're talking about.:p

You can ship firearms, as long as it's regular, ground mail (not air, ExpressPost, etc.)

If you're mailing a restricted, you need an ATT from your residence to the post office.

To answer the original question, if you're on the receiving end, all you need to do is complete the transfer by phone and wait patiently 'til it arrives.
 
so its mostly the senders responsibility then....... and all i need is a ATT to pick it up?
Great thx

Does anybody know is courriers do firearms direct to door?
 
C04dy said:
and all i need is a ATT to pick it up?
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That's an issue of great contention 'round these parts. It's been debated over and over and over, ad nauseam. Some will tell you, and they have a point, that you don't need an ATT to pick it up from the post office because you have no way of knowing what's inside the parcel. "It's only a parcel until you open it". What's more, no one could force you to open it, because mail is sacred, so you would never find yourself in a situation where anyone could prove that you carried a restriced home from the post office.

If you want to be on the safest of sides, yeah, get a short-term ATT from the post office to your home.

C04dy said:
Does anybody know is courriers do firearms direct to door?
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I don't see why they wouldn't. Similarly, if you're home when Canada Post delivers the parcel, you don't need to bother with an ATT at all.
 
Never thought of it like that b4 guys, u raise a good point.

Speaking of ATT's i keep hearing every once in a while about a "blackpatch", i dont know much about it but from what i understand its a permanant ATT, atleast between the range and your residence. Is this correct, or am i missing some facts, and if so is it difficult to get one?
 
A Black Badge (and current IPSC membership) might make your ATT (for the purpose of attending an IPSC match) valid Canada-wide.
 
Another point is that you may not know which post office the parcel is going to be delivered to. When I have a non-firearm parcel to pick-up (US shipped for duty, txs, etc) I get a notification in my mail and it could be one of two sub-post offices where the parcel is.
 
The ATT the the shipper gets to ship the firearm covers you to your door.

It usually says (on the ATT) From such and such address, to such and such address, via canada post / UPS /Canpar etc (what ever the shipper specifies as the shipping company). The only date on the ATT is the date the shipper tells them they are going to the mailing point for drop off for shipping.

In the event you are shipping the firearm for service ie: shipping a 1911 to Gunnar at Armco for a trigger job. You get a ATT to ship it to Gunnar and he gets a different ATT to ship it back.

It is a pretty straight forward procedure, no need to clutter it up with getting another ATT for pick up.

DISCLAIMER: This is the way it has worked in my experiance, about 13 times in the last 11 months.

Cheers!
 
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