Transporting firearm (handgun) , magazine and ammo to gun range question.

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Hello,

Question from newbie.

What procedure do you follow (restricted handgun target shooters) when travelling to gun range / club?

Handgun locked in carrying case, magazines loaded or unloaded with ammo?

Not loaded into gun of course but accompanying in same case?

Additional ammo in another locked case? Legal if no locked ammo case?

Loaded or unloaded magazines?

Legal?

Convenience when arriving at range?

Thanks rkwm
 
rkwm1971 said:
Hello,

Question from newbie.

What procedure do you follow (restricted handgun target shooters) when travelling to gun range / club?

Handgun locked in carrying case, magazines loaded or unloaded with ammo?

Not loaded into gun of course but accompanying in same case?

Additional ammo in another locked case? Legal if no locked ammo case?

Loaded or unloaded magazines?

Legal?

Convenience when arriving at range?

Thanks rkwm
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Charged and Uncharged.... not Loaded or Unloaded when it comes to magazines.

Also, I'm rather certain that the safety course says to keep the firearm locked with a safety device, action open, unloaded in a case, magazines not charged, the ammo box can be in the case, then he case must be locked as well. Basically, you never want it to be so that the firearm can be picked up, loaded and discharged. I assume having a charged magazine increases the chance of this happening more easily. But, I am only going by common sense and could be wrong.
 
rkwm1971 said:
Hello,

Question from newbie.

What procedure do you follow (restricted handgun target shooters) when travelling to gun range / club?

Handgun locked in carrying case, magazines loaded or unloaded with ammo?

Not loaded into gun of course but accompanying in same case?

Additional ammo in another locked case? Legal if no locked ammo case?

Loaded or unloaded magazines?

Legal?

Convenience when arriving at range?

Thanks rkwm
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Charged and Uncharged.... not Loaded or Unloaded when it comes to magazines.

Also, I'm rather certain that the safety course says to keep the firearm locked with a safety device, action open, unloaded in a case, magazines not charged, the ammo box can be in the case, then he case must be locked as well. Basically, you never want it to be so that the firearm can be picked up, loaded and discharged easily. You must follow what the safety course taught you, remember one of the steps is to remove all cartridges prior to storing. I assume having a charged magazine increases the chance of this happening more easily. But, I am only going by common sense and am also a newbie and could be wrong. My gut instinct would be to remove all cartridges from the firearm and the magazines.
 
It is best to read the actual regulations.
Essentially, the restricted firearm must be unloaded, rendered inoperative by a locking device, and locked in a secure opaque container.
Read the transport regulations carefully. What is said about the transport of ammunition?
 
tiriaq said:
Essentially, the restricted firearm must be unloaded, rendered inoperative by a locking device, and locked in a secure opaque container.
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^^This. Whether the mag is loaded or not has nothing to do with the firearm Though the cops or a judge may try and put a different spin on it. Don't load the mags.

Also in my safety course, the instructor told us it was legal to carry our ammo in the locked case with the firearm. However, CSSA suggests you transport your ammo in another locked case separate from the firearm to completely cover your ass.
 
Also in my safety course, the instructor told us it was legal to carry our ammo in the locked case with the firearm. However, CSSA suggests you transport your ammo in another locked case separate from the firearm to completely cover your ass.
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To RKWM: I would suggest that you consider following the CSSA's advice & not have ant ammo with the firearm(s). You have to consider that should you get pulled over, many LEO's do not ( or choose not to ) know the laws pertaining to firearms. So if they see something some seems unlawful they will give you a hassle or worse. That can be a costly hassle for you.
But that is my opinion. If you choose to follow the letter of the law, no more and no less, it's a free ( semi ) country.
 
I load all my magazines at home they go in my gun case, extra ammo goes into my gun case, pistol gets a trigger lock and goes into gun case Lock goes onto gun case. Good to go.
Action does not have to be open, ammunition can definitely be in the magazine, and ammunition can be in the locked case with the firearm. Make sure all your paperwork is available outside of your gun case. If you want to go above and beyond that is up to you.
 
McCoy said:
The magazines may be loaded but not with the firearms.

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I recall my instructor specifically stating mags CAN be loaded (but NOT inserted into gun) and carried in same locked container. Gun MUST be rendered inoperable with a locking device and case also locked. Whether ammo is kept in its original container or in the magazines does not matter. The magazine is simply a container, just like the original box. Personally, I never carry charged mags in the same case simply because I don't trust the average mal-informed kiddies that seem to be sporting badges these days!
 
handofzeus said:
I recall my instructor specifically stating mags CAN be loaded (but NOT inserted into gun) and carried in same locked container. Gun MUST be rendered inoperable with a locking device and case also locked. Whether ammo is kept in its original container or in the magazines does not matter. The magazine is simply a container, just like the original box. Personally, I never carry charged mags in the same case simply because I don't trust the average mal-informed kiddies that seem to be sporting badges these days!
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Yes i also agree !:cheers:
 
Hookturn said:
I load all my magazines at home they go in my gun case, extra ammo goes into my gun case, pistol gets a trigger lock and goes into gun case Lock goes onto gun case. Good to go.
Action does not have to be open, ammunition can definitely be in the magazine, and ammunition can be in the locked case with the firearm. Make sure all your paperwork is available outside of your gun case. If you want to go above and beyond that is up to you.
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X2, assuming no loaded mag in the gun.
(And I'm a CRFSC instructor, FWIW)
 
I am fairly new at this but i carry my pistols, trigger locked, in a locked case. My magazines (charged) and xtra ammo go into another locked box which also contains my safety glasses, hearing protection, stapler, gloves mini cleaning/too kit. Since I always take the last items with me (obviously) to the range it just makes sense, and it's just as easy, to keep my mags/ammo separate from my pistols. imho
 
ammo anywhere but in the gun, restricteds w/2 locks . you could almost argue in court that the trunk if key locked counts as one but dont have the cash to prove it :)
 
Traveled to competitions for years, guns trigger locked and locked in my competition case, ammo in a lockable ammo can, guns always in the room when I slept where-ever that may have been. Always had to get a temporary ATT with a match notice to travel. I always thought it was funny when going into the States to shoot the Border Guards were more curious about your Guns and the Competition, when returning to Canada the reception was more guarded, you pull over at the location indicated if you are bringing firearms into Canada and wait. Then a few minutes later two Border Guards and an RCMP with his hand on his service revolver approach your vehicle cautiously, really we called you to let you know we were bringing guns back into Canada. Like Jim Gaffigan would say "Weeeird!"

Generally I have had good experiences with travelling and shooting, follow the regulations and carry copies of all of your paperwork, now you can carry many electronic documents on your Ipad etc, so a little easier. Now send me a Match Notice Dammit!!
 
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