Heading to the range on Sunday. Have my LTATT, but out of the two restricted's, I have only recieved one registration card in the mail. I have the registration # for the other firearm. Is this enough to take it to the range?
Transporting without a registration card.
- Thread starter mralberta
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That will be plenty.
coldestcanuck
CGN frequent flyer
- Location
- lower mainland bc
I have told in two separate instances by the BC CFO NO, you may not transport without the reg cert physically in your possession. I've been told twice because I wasn't sure the first person I spoke with was correct, so on my next purchase I asked again--no joy the second time either. Both individuals I spoke to were very clear on the subject.
Your CFO may have a different policy. Do what you think is correct, me I would advise erring on the side of caution.
Check with your CFO. If and it's probably a big if, you were inspected and didn't have your reg cert, I really don't think you'd be going home with your gun.
Your CFO may have a different policy. Do what you think is correct, me I would advise erring on the side of caution.
Check with your CFO. If and it's probably a big if, you were inspected and didn't have your reg cert, I really don't think you'd be going home with your gun.
As much as it hurts me to leave my GP100 all alone in that dark, glue smelling(Costco) safe, unfortunatley thats what going happen
. All my buddies ask what are the odds of even seeing a LEO to and from the range, I say, with my luck, they will have a checkstop set up as soon as I pull out of my drive way..
I will wait until I have the registration cert. in my hand.Thanks for all the input....
As much as it hurts me to leave my GP100 all alone in that dark, glue smelling(Costco) safe, unfortunatley thats what going happen
Thanks for all the input....
I used to disagree with this train of thought but considering cases such as Ian Thomson. I now believe you cannot be too careful.
Yup, that's exactly what they want. To make us too scared to do anything, making it too scarey for new folks to even try taking up the sport. They are winning, and we are helping them and letting it happen. Rant over. Move along.
All it means is to set up another afternoon at the range to break in the revolver. Tomorrow, the SR9 will get put through it's paces.....
I dont want my impatience to wait for one piece of paper to cost me everything Ive worked for. Ive got to much time and $$$ tied up in this hobby.
Has anyone ever been asked for their registration card?
If so, under what conditions?
Likely not under the conditions mralberta needs to be concerned about.
Yes, error on the side of caution.
But not on the side of paranoia!
If so, under what conditions?
Likely not under the conditions mralberta needs to be concerned about.
Yes, error on the side of caution.
But not on the side of paranoia!
- Location
- Moronto, Morontario
That's funny because I was told that the registration card had to be shown on demand & on the spot.
I guess it depends on who you talk to.
~ Andy
Crossing the border.
x2
A peace officer may seize your firearms until you can produce a registration certificate. If you don't make contact with a peace officer, no peace officer is likely to be making any demands of you.
It does. That is the law.
Having said that, is it likely to happen to you? For most people, the answer is probably no.
This topic came up several months ago and my comment remains the same:
When you buy a firearm, you must wait for the transfer to clear AND you must get a STATT before you take possession to bring it home. You don't have a cert in hand then, and nobody thinks twice. All of a sudden the gun gets home and must be 'quarantined' until you get cert in hand. Why?
I have found nothing in the Firearms Act or the Regulations for the Display... to say that I must have paper in hand.
If I am wrong, please cite relevant source. I would really appreciate it.
Thanks,
P
When you buy a firearm, you must wait for the transfer to clear AND you must get a STATT before you take possession to bring it home. You don't have a cert in hand then, and nobody thinks twice. All of a sudden the gun gets home and must be 'quarantined' until you get cert in hand. Why?
I have found nothing in the Firearms Act or the Regulations for the Display... to say that I must have paper in hand.
If I am wrong, please cite relevant source. I would really appreciate it.
Thanks,
P
It does...what everyone is talking about is when you transfer a firearm into your name, you will get a transfer notice from the CFP with a new cert number...Then about 2 or 3 weeks later you will get your actual registration card...Ontario CFO has also said to me that the card is not necessary until you receive it, the transfer notice is suffice.
I used to work for WSS. I sold firearms, restricted and non-restricted. Your receipt, which shows the registration number is all that is required as registration for that firearm until your registration certificate arrives in the mail a week or so later. Black and white, plain and simple. Everytime we sold a firearm, we tell the customer, bring your receipt with you wherever you transport that firearm until you receive your certificate in the mail. Hope that clarifies everthing. This is BC, which should mean nothing because this is under Federal jurisdiction. This should be the case Canada wide.
badgreenbird
Regular
- Location
- Dawson Creek, BC
Technically, yes. Anytime I've been stopped by the RCMP, they've never asked about (or noticed) firearms. Anytime I've been stopped by the conservation officers, they've NEVER asked to see the gun registration. Just hunting license, etc. It's been suggested that (in the west, at least) provincial authorities are not interested in enforcing a federal requirement when it comes to gun registration.
I emailed the Canadian Firearms Program, on the 7th, asking about registration certificates, and I received a reply the next day. Here is the response from the email:
"The Criminal Code states that you must be able to produce a valid
licence and registration certificate for the inspection of a peace
officer if you have a firearm in your possession. If you do not have
these documents with you, the peace officer may seize the firearms. If
that was the only reason the firearms were seized, and you can produce
the required documents for inspection within 14 days, the police are
required to return the firearms to you.
Note: A transfer notification (Buyer) does not meet the above
requirement."
I walked out of Reliable Gun with just a STATT and a Transfer note. Looks like customers at WSS and Reliable aren't being told some critical info. Notice how it takes about two weeks to get the certificate in the mail, and you only have two weeks to show your papers before police are no longer required to return the firearms...
"The Criminal Code states that you must be able to produce a valid
licence and registration certificate for the inspection of a peace
officer if you have a firearm in your possession. If you do not have
these documents with you, the peace officer may seize the firearms. If
that was the only reason the firearms were seized, and you can produce
the required documents for inspection within 14 days, the police are
required to return the firearms to you.
Note: A transfer notification (Buyer) does not meet the above
requirement."
I walked out of Reliable Gun with just a STATT and a Transfer note. Looks like customers at WSS and Reliable aren't being told some critical info. Notice how it takes about two weeks to get the certificate in the mail, and you only have two weeks to show your papers before police are no longer required to return the firearms...
I currently work for a major outfitter and this is true. Although it all depends on the province. Where I live its not a big deal but in Ontario it is a different story. I've heard of the Ontario COs taking guns for such reasons. I guess if you get a NAZI CO your hooped no matter what province you live in. Although if you are buying a gun from a retailer and they do a transfer online they have the option to print the new certificate right then and there. I would suggest asking the retailer to print it off for you right away.
