I have a ruger american in .270 and love it. Killed my 1st bear with it this year. Its my most accurate gun with cheap factory ammo I own.
Even a cheap guns turn into a 1000$ once you add the scope and rings.
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That's closer to $900. I can get the Weatherby for 600. I'm hoping for 900-1K all in with optics at the most.
Had a vanguard 1 with a detachable mag. Mags were cheap plastic with a poor fit. Rounds wouldn't chamber sometimes because the mag was so loose. Bought a spare, same thing. Had a nice trigger on it, and shot well, but sold it just before christmas. Local hardware store carries all theses cheap rifles, and he brought in a 783 last weekend. I had a quick look at it, and was fairly impressed. Mag was heads and tails above the vanguard, and fit and finish was good too. Handled and looked a lot better than the axis sitting beside it.
Vanguard S2's are awesome rifles. I just completed my first hunt with mine last fall. The father in law thought it was heavy, as it should be since it's a .300WinMag but he carries an old 760 in .308. The S2 trigger is a dual stage trigger, .5lbs will tighten the trigger, the next 2.5lbs will snap it, it is adjustable however so you can always tweak it. Mine has a nice crisp break and is a great shooter. The other pro's I noticed in the rifle was the fluted bolt which makes it easier to break free if you're out in the snow on a trip and get some ice build up on it. This has happened to me before with other rifles, it's never fun when you try to cycle the action and have to damn near put your boots on the top of the rifle to break the bolt free.
The Howa's/Vanguard S2's also have detachable magazine kits available for them, depending on the caliber you opt for. I believe that most of the "smaller" calibers (.270, .308, .30-06) have a mag kit for them, unfortunately my .300 does not, not that i needed it though
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The Weatherby website shows the Vanguards with a detachable magazine only in .25-06, .270, and .30-06, and retro-fit kits for detachable magazines only in those three calibres.




























