Trip to Wholesale Sports, Looked at budget guns.

Its too bad the Marlin X7 seems to be off the market, mine shoots great, no complaints. I just cant get past the fugly styling on the Ruger and Savage...people seem to like them though. A Boyds stock does make that Remington 783 look alot nicer.
 
Hunting rigs aren't a fashion show in part of the woods. Accuracy is more important for me then how a gun looks. specially one that will get the sh!t beat out of it.
 
Depends on the caliber.
I'd pick #2 on your list for 308win or smaller.
Then #4 for the added bit of weight the Vanguard has.
I wouldn't consider #'s 1 & 3 unless they were given to me.
 
I have a ruger american in .270 and love it. Killed my 1st bear with it this year. Its my most accurate gun with cheap factory ammo I own.

Even a cheap guns turn into a 1000$ once you add the scope and rings.

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This would be my choice as well... Minus the bipod.
 
Had a vanguard 1 with a detachable mag. Mags were cheap plastic with a poor fit. Rounds wouldn't chamber sometimes because the mag was so loose. Bought a spare, same thing. Had a nice trigger on it, and shot well, but sold it just before christmas. Local hardware store carries all theses cheap rifles, and he brought in a 783 last weekend. I had a quick look at it, and was fairly impressed. Mag was heads and tails above the vanguard, and fit and finish was good too. Handled and looked a lot better than the axis sitting beside it.
 
not a biased opinion because i own a axis, its a real opinion because i was in the EXACT same boat as you with my first center fire rifle, it was a 783, american or axis i went to 3 diffrent gun shops, delt with three diffrent people, and held all 3 rifles at 3 seperate locations, on differnt days. I chose the axis, it shouldered the best to me, i like the design and action on it, and it has track proven accuracy for it a budget rifle, plus to me it seemed like the best bang for the buck. The CON was definietly the trigger on it. It felt like it broke at a 7lb. pull. A couple youtube videos later and a sharp pair of wire cutters, you can have a DIY no-cost decent trigger to work with. I recommend you don't perform this mod if your not confident, but i would say my trigger weight is about 2.5-3lbs now, and everything operates safely. Next job will be to take the slight side to side play out of it, just havent found the washer im looking for yet. I truly dont think you could go wrong with any of these, but the savage axis fit my bill in terms of value. I picked up the "RealTree AP snowcamo Axis XP" in stainless w/ the bushnell scope ( i know, i know...but it works good on my .22lr) for $425 on the EE. thats alotta value for the dollar.
 
If you're putting a vanguard on the list, you may as well look at a remington 700 or a savage 11/111 for around the same price.
 
Vanguard S2's are awesome rifles. I just completed my first hunt with mine last fall. The father in law thought it was heavy, as it should be since it's a .300WinMag but he carries an old 760 in .308. The S2 trigger is a dual stage trigger, .5lbs will tighten the trigger, the next 2.5lbs will snap it, it is adjustable however so you can always tweak it. Mine has a nice crisp break and is a great shooter. The other pro's I noticed in the rifle was the fluted bolt which makes it easier to break free if you're out in the snow on a trip and get some ice build up on it. This has happened to me before with other rifles, it's never fun when you try to cycle the action and have to damn near put your boots on the top of the rifle to break the bolt free.

The Howa's/Vanguard S2's also have detachable magazine kits available for them, depending on the caliber you opt for. I believe that most of the "smaller" calibers (.270, .308, .30-06) have a mag kit for them, unfortunately my .300 does not :(, not that i needed it though :D.
 
Had a vanguard 1 with a detachable mag. Mags were cheap plastic with a poor fit. Rounds wouldn't chamber sometimes because the mag was so loose. Bought a spare, same thing. Had a nice trigger on it, and shot well, but sold it just before christmas. Local hardware store carries all theses cheap rifles, and he brought in a 783 last weekend. I had a quick look at it, and was fairly impressed. Mag was heads and tails above the vanguard, and fit and finish was good too. Handled and looked a lot better than the axis sitting beside it.

The Vanguard detachable mag seems to be kind of an afterthought, probably due to market pressures. They are far better with the floor plate IMO. Easy to push the latch and dump the rounds if necessary and smooth feeding. I don't like the detachable mags for hunting much anyways, especially after needing to replace one that slid out of a Browning. 1/5th of what I paid for the gun was the mag I guess...
 
Vanguard S2's are awesome rifles. I just completed my first hunt with mine last fall. The father in law thought it was heavy, as it should be since it's a .300WinMag but he carries an old 760 in .308. The S2 trigger is a dual stage trigger, .5lbs will tighten the trigger, the next 2.5lbs will snap it, it is adjustable however so you can always tweak it. Mine has a nice crisp break and is a great shooter. The other pro's I noticed in the rifle was the fluted bolt which makes it easier to break free if you're out in the snow on a trip and get some ice build up on it. This has happened to me before with other rifles, it's never fun when you try to cycle the action and have to damn near put your boots on the top of the rifle to break the bolt free.

The Howa's/Vanguard S2's also have detachable magazine kits available for them, depending on the caliber you opt for. I believe that most of the "smaller" calibers (.270, .308, .30-06) have a mag kit for them, unfortunately my .300 does not :(, not that i needed it though :D.

The Weatherby website shows the Vanguards with a detachable magazine only in .25-06, .270, and .30-06, and retro-fit kits for detachable magazines only in those three calibres.
 
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