Did anyone get any insight on the Troy pump action rifle in 223? They did a few updates on the rifle but I can only find used older gen on the market as of now. I feel this will get more interest down the road with what is currently going on. Watched some reviews and some claim half MOA at 110yards which is impressive. I know this rifle isint for everybody but the pump action and reliability speaks to me. Wpuld be happy to get a newer batch.
Troy Par 223
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roadglide1
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I looked at the Troy earlier this year and was interested, did some research, but ended up with a Maple Ridge Renegade. Mostly due to the Renegade being Canadian, and ergonomic preference.
That is nice rifle. I feel like the side charging handle would obviously be better while shooting prone. I do however like the pump action of the troy as you don't need to change the grip. having a hybrid would obviously be a nice feature. What kind of accuracy are you getting out of you're MRR and what barrel length does it have?
Bartok was pretty serious about his, not sure if he made a thread on it. ATRS is doing mods on them, they might have an inside line on manufacture details, etc..
You, sir, are a poet.Scary and black, they'll be buying it back.
Just looked them up and they do custom barrels for the troy. Seems very nice but I am unsure if i want to go lower than 12" in barrel lenght
I am curious as to how this rifle never ran being a a pump action? Was it an earlier iteration?
Yeah that deffinately looks pretty nice. I've read a little on it and it seems like a line a accessories is in the making. Id obviously like a buffertube style buttstock but I am just being picky at this point.
I did the same thing. Can't pump the lever while prone.
I think I'm going to put a second charging handle on my Renegade so I can charge it with either hand depending on what position I'm shooting from
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The few folks I know who got a Troy PAR223 liked the cool factor of being NR but had issues with the action itself. The design of the pump rods were problematic if I understood correctly.
Like everyone, I'm at a loss for a proper IPSC/3gun rifle. Rather than dishing more pesos into guns I don't really like, I decided to wait for Canadians to flush the turd and LIEberals, which should happen in a foreseeable future.
My best advice? Be patient, vote smart and we all get to take our semis back out to play.
Like everyone, I'm at a loss for a proper IPSC/3gun rifle. Rather than dishing more pesos into guns I don't really like, I decided to wait for Canadians to flush the turd and LIEberals, which should happen in a foreseeable future.
My best advice? Be patient, vote smart and we all get to take our semis back out to play.
I am curious as to how this rifle never ran being a a pump action? Was it an earlier iteration?
It was. Something with the materials used at the time. I also have a friend who’s PAR ran perfect in competition which is the best practical way to test a gun I believe. I would still go with one of the newer rifle designs.
It was. Something with the materials used at the time. I also have a friend who’s PAR ran perfect in competition which is the best practical way to test a gun I believe. I would still go with one of the newer rifle designs.
I have a fully decked out first gen PAR that I'm going to be listing for sale soon. It has been a great reliable gun. The only issue I've had is the occasional light primer strikes on some older milsurp 5.56 ammo. As for the action my buddy has a PAR as well but with a shorter barrel and neither of us have had an issue with the action. It's pump action, not much to really under perform.
Pump actions are harder to get right than most people realize. Think about how much force is required to unlock the bolt on a typical off-the-shelf bolt or lever action. With no mechanical advantage to apply (via a bolt handle or lever), pump actions are at a major disadvantage.
I'm always impressed when a manufacturer produces a centerfire pump rifle that works well.
I'll add my $0.02 here. I shoot 3-gun in Michigan (I'm not that good, but I have fun). After the May 2020 ban I bought an MRA Renegade and used it for a while. Like others said, adding a second charging handle made it better. I'm right handed, and if I use my left hand to rack the bolt for some reason I often "ride the bolt" home, resulting in failure to fire. Racking the right side bolt handle with my right hand fixed that, but I have to take my hand off of the pistol grip. After a year or so bought a Kel-Tec SU16F but for me and my handloads it was not accurate at 100 yards, let alone 200 yards. Sold it, and bought a Troy PAR (moot point, as now the Kel-Tec is prohib). Shot the Troy at a few 3-gun matches last year and overall liked it, except for when I was shooting with the fore-end resting on barriers or shooting through "holes" in barricades. Troy or MRA? 6 of one, half-dozen of the other. Both were fine for my level of competition (not last place usually, but closer to the bottom than the top).
Just bought a SCSA Taipan X to try to get best of both worlds. Only had it to the range once so far, but I like the concept of choice of bolt or pump. The disadvantage would appear to be (i) when you rack the left-side bolt the pump portion also retracts (so I will have the same issue with barriers/resting the firearm) and (ii) when you hold the rifle, if you are pulling back even slightly on the pump it goes out of battery and fails to fire. As per some YouTube videos, it might be best to hold the firearm just forward of the magazine well.
In any case, all 3 will be going on my Form 6nia for the 2025 season and I plan on trying them out at future 3-gun matches.
YMMV
Just bought a SCSA Taipan X to try to get best of both worlds. Only had it to the range once so far, but I like the concept of choice of bolt or pump. The disadvantage would appear to be (i) when you rack the left-side bolt the pump portion also retracts (so I will have the same issue with barriers/resting the firearm) and (ii) when you hold the rifle, if you are pulling back even slightly on the pump it goes out of battery and fails to fire. As per some YouTube videos, it might be best to hold the firearm just forward of the magazine well.
In any case, all 3 will be going on my Form 6nia for the 2025 season and I plan on trying them out at future 3-gun matches.
YMMV
roadglide1
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I looked at both the pump and the slide Troys. I was more interested in the slide action, which led me to research what was available in slide action type rifles. The MRA configuration was most like an AR type rifle in its operation… i.e. rear buffer tube and spring , stocks, etc. TheTroy has the spring forward of the bolt and pulls the bolt assembly closed, if I remember correctly.
