tulammo 7.62x51 for the rem700?

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Hi all,

Just picked up a rem700. It is a 700SPS-AAC-SD. I am looking for ammo to start with at the range. Would the tula stuff be good for 300 - 500 yards at the range.

It is this stuff here: http://www.tulammocanada.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=80&product_id=55

What should I expect if I am going to use this stuff?

Should just go to Cabela's and get 180 grain stuff instead?

Any advice greatly helpful for my first trip to the range with a 308


Regards,
 
I don't know anything about the Tula stuff specifically, but I do know that you will never realize the potential of a precision rifle if you feed it cheap FMJ ammo. At those distances you can expect to spend a lot of time and ammo making adjustments to chase the group around the target when you are using cheap ammo.

Reloading is the way to go, but if you are stuck with buying factory ammo, open the wallet and get some ammo labeled "match" from a maker like Norma, Federal, Hornady, etc. (preferably a box of each) and fire a couple of groups to compare it side by side with the FMJ stuff.
 
Great thanks for the explanation, learning about this rifle.

I will go to Cabelas in the morning before the range to get that match quality.

Should I be concerned with the different grain sizes?

Regards
 
Buy yourself two boxes of Federal Gold Medal Match - one in 168g and the other in 175g. Your rifle may show a preference for one over the other.

If, down the road, you stretch out to a distance further than about 600m you will likely wish to avoid the 168g as the Sierra Match King performs poorly out past that distance whereas the 175g is good to go out to 1K and beyond.
 
Tomochan said:
Buy yourself two boxes of Federal Gold Medal Match - one in 168g and the other in 175g. Your rifle may show a preference for one over the other.

If, down the road, you stretch out to a distance further than about 600m you will likely wish to avoid the 168g as the Sierra Match King performs poorly out past that distance whereas the 175g is good to go out to 1K and beyond.
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Alpheus said:
Since you are in Edmonton, try Tier One Armoury, they normally stock Black Hills match ammo.
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Great, Thanks you guys. Very valuable information for me to start off with.

I will check that place out, too, Alpheus.

Regards
 
rl4930 said:
If the Tula ammo has a bimetal jacket, it will accelerate your barrel wear.
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Gobc said:
Just don't use the Tula ammo for precision shooting.

In fact, don't use it at all.
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Definitely not going now, didn't know about the barrel wear part about bimetal, learned something new again!

Thanks, guys

It is not a financial thing for me, The reason I asked about that is that I was into the old russian military stuff, and all those firearms use nothing but bimetal!

I have no problem picking high quality match grade stuff. Just bought 3 boxes Nosler Match, 1 of each 155grain, 175grain, 168grain. Just happened to be sitting there at eye level at Cabela's.

Regards
 
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Long range is definitely a commitment. Either to reloading, or spending major dollars on ammo. I've bought and sold a couple of nice bolt guns as I wasn't ready to commit to .308 prices yet.
 
168gn Berger $60 per 100
Federal gm primers $5 per 100
1lb of varget powder $40
100 pieces of lapua brass $90, so

The cost of a loaded round would be
Bullet- .60
Brass- .09(conservatively assuming 10 reloads)
Primer- .06
Powder- .26

Total cost- $1.01 per round for superb match ammo
 
Never reloaded Ammo

Where can I start? Is there a quick startup kit for 308?

Guess I should be asking this in the reloading forums..................

Thanks for the headsup



rl4930 said:
168gn Berger $60 per 100
Federal gm primers $5 per 100
1lb of varget powder $40
100 pieces of lapua brass $90, so

The cost of a loaded round would be
Bullet- .60
Brass- .09(conservatively assuming 10 reloads)
Primer- .06
Powder- .26

Total cost- $1.01 per round for superb match ammo
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A basic starter kit is all you need to get going, you'll want a single stage press. The lee breech lock would be the low end and the rcbs rock chucker combo would be mid range. Reloading can be as addictive as shooting. If you want to buy once, cry once, then you're looking at big$. A cheaper starter kit is easy to upgrade over time. Dies however, spend the dough and get redding match dies.
 
there are kits available, lee tend to be the most economical from what i have seen and they come with most of what you need but IMHO there shouldn't be anything done too quickly with reloading...find a good reloading book and read it first to get an idea of what needs to be done. when you get to loading ammo, follow the reloading manual for loads....work loads up towards the maximum loads and see what works

I have had very good luck with the Norm 168's as far as off the shelf ammo goes though...found some cheap so I'm shooting my way though it and planning on using the brass for reloading.
 
ABC's of reloading I hear is good. I don't own any manuals, I do however recommend it, just most of the cartridges I load for don't have decent data in manuals. One book I do own and recommend is applied ballistics for long range shooting, by Brian Litz.
 
or pm me and i can hook you up with these once you start reloading..

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cnc milled brass bullets, the bullet contacts the rifling in the barrel on the 3 lands you see near the back of the bullet... = less barrel wear. i got a sample of 5 rounds but i havent tried em in a bolt gun, i put them through my m1 garand saw about a good 1inch difference in grouping vs hornady 150gr FMJBT. have not compared em to match 308 projectiles but at 70$/100 cash im not complaining about the price:p still waiting for them to come in so i can load some more.
 
The Lee breech lock kit is a good value. I bought my kit one piece at a time but started with a breech lock challenger press. I haven't had a single issue with it and it's still going strong. A shooting buddy bought the full kit and now reloads sub moa match ammo and is tuning his hunting loads, making improvement each time he shoots. He's been reloading for a couple months tops. All Lee gear too. You don't have to spend copious amounts of money until you're feeding a rifle truly capable of consistent sub half minute performance. I.E. a custom match rifle in the hands of an experienced shooter. For wringjng the best accuracy out of a factory rifle or making a pile of plinking ammo you do not need an expensive setup at all. Budget a couple hundred bucks for reloading and you can get everything you need to learn and reload ammo that shoots better than the most expensive factory load.
 
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