I know you can only hunt turkey till 7:00p.m. My question is do you have to encase your gun at that point, or can you keep it out in case of zombie attacks on your way out? I realize the chances of having a shot on a coyote or such are extremely low while hiking out of the woods, but I hate dragging that darned gun sock around. Legal light ends well after 7 for regular hunting, just not sure how turkey rules relate to it.
Turkey hunting question
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Honestly, just because I have my turkey tag, turkey decoy, turkey calls and turkey load I'm really hunting coyote.
Legally I have no idea. Plus, everyone knows a Zombie invasion will start in the cities first. Would it have to be Hornady's Zombie ammo to be legal anyway?
Legally I have no idea. Plus, everyone knows a Zombie invasion will start in the cities first. Would it have to be Hornady's Zombie ammo to be legal anyway?
Depends on what the CO "thinks" you are trying to do.. if there is any suspicion that you are hunting after hours then you will be charged..
Try to convince a CO you are hunting Coyote's with #6 shot, while walking around the bush.. thats not a good way to hunt coyotees so he will think you are hunting turkeys illegally..
Try to convince a CO you are hunting Coyote's with #6 shot, while walking around the bush.. thats not a good way to hunt coyotees so he will think you are hunting turkeys illegally..
You don't have to "convince" him of anything... there is no requirement to have your gun encased until 1/2 hour after sunset... don't forget in most areas there is also an open rabbit season until June 15... but that really doesn't matter either... there are crows, varmints etc... your good until you get to your vehicle.
Actually no you are not good to go..
the definition of hunting is a reverse onus definition.. which means you need to PROVE you are NOT hunting turkey.. if your dressed in full camo, firearm (with turkey loads) with turkey decoys, and turkey calls (and not other equipment to hunt other species) then the CO's first impression is that you are hunting turkeys outside legal hours, and you will have to prove you are not..
by encasing your firearm you are showing that you don't have a firearm readily available to shoot a turkey you happen to stumble on, on your way back.
It's up the impression of the CO, and you have to show you are not hunting turkey.. this is not an "Innocent until proven guilty" situation.. that doesn't existing with hunting/poaching.
ya ok.......tinfoil a little tight??...give your head a bit of a shake and maybe it will loosen up.
You can even have your gun loaded on the way out....crows and other varmints are still to legal hunt at 7:02 pm...
See this is what I was thinking. I WAS hunting turkey, but that ends at 7:00. Is it legal for me to carry my gun out to the car uncased, and possibly loaded in the off chance a legal critter crosses my path. I wouldn't be actively hunting them, but it would piss me off if a skunk or possum, or coyote stared me down at 10yrds and I couldn't shoot cause my gun wasn't ready. Besides, as mentioned, I HATE that darned gunsock, but I will use it outside of legal hours.
as I said.. it doesn't matter what YOU think you are doing it's what you need to prove to the CO if you get stopped.. if he thinks you are BSing him.. he will charge you with hunting turkey past 7:00.
Chance that it would happen.. very low.. but it can still happen.. I've seen lots of MNR on crown land both before and after hours..
Really?... You are a cop and that is your interpretation... Keep in mind that co's attend the same court you do...
Do you really think someone with a loaded gun full of nymber 6 turkey load, a bag full of decoys and a vest full of turkey calls is going to be able to make a case that they were coyote hunting when they come up against a knowledgeable co?... Give me a break...
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For the record, I have had 2 coyotes come charging at my turkey decoy while calling this season. I use turkey decoys in the winter as well for coyotes, as ocasionally you see a kill and its is a food source for them.
I would argue that if you are on the way out of the bush at 7:01 pm, that there is no prejudice for a CO to charge you hunting turkeys with an uncased gun-remember, you are enroute to your vehicle. Plus, as turkeys are wary, fickle creatures (e.g. they bolt at 300 yds because they SEE you),you couldn't actually be hunting turkeys by walking around in the bush (vs. sitting camoflagued and motionless), could you...?
Can you use a digital call with a turkey vocalizations when you're hunting coyote? Again, I think a CO would have a hard case proving you weren't hunting coyotes. If you are after varmints, then would you use a 1 3/4 oz turkey load-probably not, so if you are interested in varmints, I would use an appropriate load.
I don't recall anything in the regulations about cased gun, however I could be wrong. If it is stated, well we all know the answer then...
I would argue that if you are on the way out of the bush at 7:01 pm, that there is no prejudice for a CO to charge you hunting turkeys with an uncased gun-remember, you are enroute to your vehicle. Plus, as turkeys are wary, fickle creatures (e.g. they bolt at 300 yds because they SEE you),you couldn't actually be hunting turkeys by walking around in the bush (vs. sitting camoflagued and motionless), could you...?
Can you use a digital call with a turkey vocalizations when you're hunting coyote? Again, I think a CO would have a hard case proving you weren't hunting coyotes. If you are after varmints, then would you use a 1 3/4 oz turkey load-probably not, so if you are interested in varmints, I would use an appropriate load.
I don't recall anything in the regulations about cased gun, however I could be wrong. If it is stated, well we all know the answer then...
I also use turkey dekes and calls to hunt yotes... I also dress in full camo... But do I pack a shotgun with 3 inch number six turkey load and a red dot sight?..
And no, turkey don't necessarily bolt at 300... That is how run and gun hunting works... Sneak to 100 or less...
So if you hunt deer in an area where the was a moose season and the moose season is now closed, could a CO charge you with hunting moose???
What about hunting rabbits on Jan 1 when the grouse season closed Dec 31.
After 7pm could you legally discharge your gun and another species whether it be coyote or crow???
What about hunting rabbits on Jan 1 when the grouse season closed Dec 31.
After 7pm could you legally discharge your gun and another species whether it be coyote or crow???
can you be charged.. YES.. if the CO believes you were hunting moose. this is the power they have with the wildlife act. you have to prove/convince him you were not poaching and actually hunting deer..
EG.. if he sees your tracks and you were following a moose track he can believe you were hunting moose and not what you "claimed" to be hunting..
if everything is "good" And you don't seem nervous, and you have all the proper licenses, etc.. then you have nothing to worry about.. but the onus is still on you to convince him you were doing the right thing..
I see questions about hunting laws in Ontario popping up here from time to time. Here is a link to the MNR's website where you can "Ask a CO" questions via email. They also have a "frequently asked questions" page that has useful information.
http://www.mnr.gov.on.ca/en/Business/Enforcement/2ColumnSubPage/STEL01_130186.html
Get the legal answer from the MNR, not from a hunting forum.
http://www.mnr.gov.on.ca/en/Business/Enforcement/2ColumnSubPage/STEL01_130186.html
Get the legal answer from the MNR, not from a hunting forum.
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But where's the fun in that?
