Twist for a 308 win

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I am sure this has been a horse that has been beat several times,so I will keep it short!!

Love to buy this gun,but it has a 12 twist....I want to shoot the longer ranges....you know,beyond 600 yards.
It has a 24" barrel...I would like to use 175 gr ish bullet.
Any luck with this combination....thoughts,feelings??
 
Personally, I wouldn't use the 175; I prefer 155s. Use a ballistics program and study long range performance with achievable muzzle velocities.
 
I shoot 175's through thirteen twist barrels and they work fine. I shoot 190 Matchkings through two different 12 twist 30's (one 308 and the other a 30/06) and they shoot well to 900m. I have used 200's in the '06 and it handles them just fine as well. I think the 12 twist is really the ideal twist for a 308 using bullets up to 180. While 190's seem to shoot well, I would prefer a 10 twist if planning to shoot 190 or heavier.
 
My 3 primary .30 caliber rifles have 1:12, 1:10, and 1:8 twists respectively. The only bullets I have been unable to fully stabilize in the 1:12 are 240 gr Woodleighs, and therefore by extension, the very long 230 gr VLDs. The 1:10 twist has been the .30 caliber standard since the 1890s when .303s and .30-40s drove long 215 and 220 gr round nose bullets, propelled by charges of the new nitrocellulose powders, at the blistering velocity of 2000 fps. Given lighter modern bullets, that are similar in length, but with much higher BCs, and velocities half again faster, it was seen that a 1:12 was suitable for 95% of the applications that a .30 caliber rifle is suitable for. Why then would some idiot spec out a .30 caliber barrel with a 1:8? Well, what happens if you want to reach out to a mile with your .308?

We know that bullets can become unstable as they slow through the transonic range, and finally become subsonic. This, despite the fact that the bullet's rotational velocity changes little during it's time of flight, although it's linear velocity has been reduced by two thirds. What's the old saying? Friends don't let friends shoot 168s at 1000. The answer to the problem is greater stability. Greater stability really means a more rigid stability, and that gain in rigidity is created by higher rotational velocities. Since its not practical to attempt to increase the linear velocity of a bullet from any given cartridge, the easiest way to increase it's rotational velocity, is to increase the rate of twist; so I chose the 1:8 for my .308 target rifle.

You will never run into a problem with your 1:12 shooting out to 800 yards with any mid weight match bullet, and 1000 yards shouldn't be a problem if you're shooting 155s or 175s.
 
Stolle Panda F-Class, RB/RP
Bartlein barrel 300×308 1:10″ 5R Heavy Varmint 30 1/2” finished
Mike Ezell Tuner
Jewell Trigger
Master class stock (Warner model)
March Tactical 2.5-25x52mm with modifier disk
Duplin bipod
Edgewood Mini Gator Rear Bag, extra short, slick ears
Load Data
Berger 200 Hybrids, .010″ jam
Hodgdon Varget, 44.2 grains, 2660 fps
Lapua .308 Win Palma brass, skim turned to .0145″, .002″ neck tension.
CCI BR4 primers
enough said this combination won the Canadian f class shoot last week in Ottawa by a large margin
 
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